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B757 flight crew need to advise P50 controller that approach clearance had not been issued, receiving a turn to the airport with a visual approach clearance while receiving a TCASII alert.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 596792 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200310 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : phx.airport |
| State Reference | AZ |
| Altitude | msl single value : 4000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : p50.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B757-200 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 26 other |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : p50.tracon |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 210 flight time total : 27000 flight time type : 6000 |
| ASRS Report | 596792 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 6000 flight time type : 1300 |
| ASRS Report | 597085 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : separated traffic flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
| Miss Distance | horizontal : 18000 vertical : 500 |
Narrative:
While on vectors for a visual approach to runway 26 at phx, ATC issued a heading of 350 degrees and altitude of 5000 ft MSL. The controller later cleared us to descend to 3000 ft MSL, but no clearance for a visual approach was received. After crossing the runway 26 localizer, we told him we were still on an assigned heading. He called out traffic and quickly cleared us for a visual approach. Nothing else was said, and neither the first officer nor I had heard any earlier clearance for the visual approach. Supplemental information from acn 597085: the phx approach controller handed us off to phx tower. I asked if we were cleared for the visual approach yet, because approach had not yet issued a clearance. He said we were 'now cleared for the visual, and contact tower.' as we were turning inbound we got a TCASII TA on downwind traffic. We continued our turn toward the runway to avoid the traffic and complete the approach.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757 FLT CREW NEED TO ADVISE P50 CTLR THAT APCH CLRNC HAD NOT BEEN ISSUED, RECEIVING A TURN TO THE ARPT WITH A VISUAL APCH CLRNC WHILE RECEIVING A TCASII ALERT.
Narrative: WHILE ON VECTORS FOR A VISUAL APCH TO RWY 26 AT PHX, ATC ISSUED A HDG OF 350 DEGS AND ALT OF 5000 FT MSL. THE CTLR LATER CLRED US TO DSND TO 3000 FT MSL, BUT NO CLRNC FOR A VISUAL APCH WAS RECEIVED. AFTER XING THE RWY 26 LOC, WE TOLD HIM WE WERE STILL ON AN ASSIGNED HDG. HE CALLED OUT TFC AND QUICKLY CLRED US FOR A VISUAL APCH. NOTHING ELSE WAS SAID, AND NEITHER THE FO NOR I HAD HEARD ANY EARLIER CLRNC FOR THE VISUAL APCH. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 597085: THE PHX APCH CTLR HANDED US OFF TO PHX TWR. I ASKED IF WE WERE CLRED FOR THE VISUAL APCH YET, BECAUSE APCH HAD NOT YET ISSUED A CLRNC. HE SAID WE WERE 'NOW CLRED FOR THE VISUAL, AND CONTACT TWR.' AS WE WERE TURNING INBOUND WE GOT A TCASII TA ON DOWNWIND TFC. WE CONTINUED OUR TURN TOWARD THE RWY TO AVOID THE TFC AND COMPLETE THE APCH.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.