<< >> NASA ASRS Report 597216, October 2003

A C172 had a damaged skin section and a missing tiedown ring from a tail strike. The aircraft was ferried without a ferry permit to GGG from mlu, la.

Attributes
ACN	597216
Time
Date	200310
Day	Wed
Local Time Of Day	1201 To 1800
Place
Locale Reference	airport : mlu.airport
State Reference	CA
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : instructional
Make Model Name	Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	ground : takeoff roll
Flight Plan	None
Person 1
Affiliation	other
Function	instruction : instructor
Qualification	pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 8000 flight time type : 2500
ASRS Report	597216
Person 2
Affiliation	other
Function	instruction : trainee
Events
Anomaly	aircraft equipment problem : critical ground encounters other maintenance problem : improper documentation maintenance problem : improper maintenance maintenance problem : non compliance with mel non adherence : far other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other other : fsdo 5
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Consequence	faa : investigated faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other other
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance Maintenance Human Performance Company Aircraft
Primary Problem	Ambiguous

Narrative:

Student had damaged the tail of a C172 during landing. Tiedown ring was sheared off. Skin was scrapped. Was there any other structural damage? Mechanic at mlu was unsure. Our mechanic at home base, GGG and mechanic at mlu conferred by phone several times. They finally agreed that a ferry permit to bring the airplane to GGG was not required. Upon arriving at GGG I was informed that btr FSDO thought that a ferry permit was required. Possibly, I flew an unairworthy aircraft from mlu to GGG.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A C172 HAD A DAMAGED SKIN SECTION AND A MISSING TIEDOWN RING FROM A TAIL STRIKE. THE ACFT WAS FERRIED WITHOUT A FERRY PERMIT TO GGG FROM MLU, LA.

Narrative: STUDENT HAD DAMAGED THE TAIL OF A C172 DURING LNDG. TIEDOWN RING WAS SHEARED OFF. SKIN WAS SCRAPPED. WAS THERE ANY OTHER STRUCTURAL DAMAGE? MECH AT MLU WAS UNSURE. OUR MECH AT HOME BASE, GGG AND MECH AT MLU CONFERRED BY PHONE SEVERAL TIMES. THEY FINALLY AGREED THAT A FERRY PERMIT TO BRING THE AIRPLANE TO GGG WAS NOT REQUIRED. UPON ARRIVING AT GGG I WAS INFORMED THAT BTR FSDO THOUGHT THAT A FERRY PERMIT WAS REQUIRED. POSSIBLY, I FLEW AN UNAIRWORTHY ACFT FROM MLU TO GGG.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.