Narrative:

I contacted FSS through 1-800-wxbrief and obtained a standard WX briefing, including information on tfr's. I was asked my route of flight, and I indicated that I would be departing vny for victorville, ca, and that my route would be via palmdale VOR, ca. I was advised by FSS that there were tfr's for firefighting aircraft operations but that they would be to the west of my intended route and also to the south of my intended route. Vny tower gave me a right downwind departure from runway 16R and instructed me to keep my altitude at or below 2500 ft until crossing the 118 freeway (approximately 4 mi north). I attempted to contact socal approach control on 120.4 after crossing the 118 freeway and leaving tower frequency. I made contact with socal approach and received a squawk code within approximately 1 mi. A short time later, I received my next contact from approach control. The approach controller asked if I realized that I was in a tfr, and I advised him that I was not aware that I was in a tfr because I had obtained a standard WX briefing from FSS, giving them my intended route of flight, and was advised that I would be to the east and north of the tfr's. The approach controller then requested that I turn 320 degrees (further northwest toward the tfr) to clear inbound jet traffic on vny ILS runway 16R. In other words, the controller steered me more directly into the area where he stated the tfr was located so that I would be further away from the ILS track I was attempting not to fly through until receiving TA's from socal approach control. On my return trip, to avoid a recurrence of this problem, I asked a FSS briefer to give me specific information concerning the exact location of the tfr's and gave the briefer a waypoint by waypoint course as though I was IFR to ensure that there was no misunderstanding concerning the exact location of the tfr's and my exact route of flight.

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Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: DESPITE DUTIFUL BRIEFINGS FROM AN FSS BRIEFER, SPECIFICALLY REQUESTING DETAILS OF TFR'S ON HIS VFR RTE OF FLT, PLT OF PA28 DEPARTS VNY AND IS PROMPTLY DIRECTED INTO A TFR HE WAS NOT BRIEFED ON BY VNY TWR AND SCT CTLRS.

Narrative: I CONTACTED FSS THROUGH 1-800-WXBRIEF AND OBTAINED A STANDARD WX BRIEFING, INCLUDING INFO ON TFR'S. I WAS ASKED MY RTE OF FLT, AND I INDICATED THAT I WOULD BE DEPARTING VNY FOR VICTORVILLE, CA, AND THAT MY RTE WOULD BE VIA PALMDALE VOR, CA. I WAS ADVISED BY FSS THAT THERE WERE TFR'S FOR FIREFIGHTING ACFT OPS BUT THAT THEY WOULD BE TO THE W OF MY INTENDED RTE AND ALSO TO THE S OF MY INTENDED RTE. VNY TWR GAVE ME A R DOWNWIND DEP FROM RWY 16R AND INSTRUCTED ME TO KEEP MY ALT AT OR BELOW 2500 FT UNTIL XING THE 118 FREEWAY (APPROX 4 MI N). I ATTEMPTED TO CONTACT SOCAL APCH CTL ON 120.4 AFTER XING THE 118 FREEWAY AND LEAVING TWR FREQ. I MADE CONTACT WITH SOCAL APCH AND RECEIVED A SQUAWK CODE WITHIN APPROX 1 MI. A SHORT TIME LATER, I RECEIVED MY NEXT CONTACT FROM APCH CTL. THE APCH CTLR ASKED IF I REALIZED THAT I WAS IN A TFR, AND I ADVISED HIM THAT I WAS NOT AWARE THAT I WAS IN A TFR BECAUSE I HAD OBTAINED A STANDARD WX BRIEFING FROM FSS, GIVING THEM MY INTENDED RTE OF FLT, AND WAS ADVISED THAT I WOULD BE TO THE E AND N OF THE TFR'S. THE APCH CTLR THEN REQUESTED THAT I TURN 320 DEGS (FURTHER NW TOWARD THE TFR) TO CLR INBOUND JET TFC ON VNY ILS RWY 16R. IN OTHER WORDS, THE CTLR STEERED ME MORE DIRECTLY INTO THE AREA WHERE HE STATED THE TFR WAS LOCATED SO THAT I WOULD BE FURTHER AWAY FROM THE ILS TRACK I WAS ATTEMPTING NOT TO FLY THROUGH UNTIL RECEIVING TA'S FROM SOCAL APCH CTL. ON MY RETURN TRIP, TO AVOID A RECURRENCE OF THIS PROB, I ASKED A FSS BRIEFER TO GIVE ME SPECIFIC INFO CONCERNING THE EXACT LOCATION OF THE TFR'S AND GAVE THE BRIEFER A WAYPOINT BY WAYPOINT COURSE AS THOUGH I WAS IFR TO ENSURE THAT THERE WAS NO MISUNDERSTANDING CONCERNING THE EXACT LOCATION OF THE TFR'S AND MY EXACT RTE OF FLT.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.