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Attributes | |
ACN | 598949 |
Time | |
Date | 200311 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : hef.airport |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | agl bound lower : 0 agl bound upper : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : hef.tower |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : roll |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : hef.tower |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Robinson Helicopter, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : roll |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 630 flight time type : 630 |
ASRS Report | 598949 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
I was flying a cessna 172N landing at manassas regional airport in virginia. The pattern was very busy with approximately 5-7 landing aircraft being handled at once. I was told to overfly the airport at 2000 ft and enter right base for runway 34L, which I did and descended to tpa (1200 ft). The controller told me that I was 'cleared to land #3 after the robinson helicopter.' I repeated this and told him that I was turning base this time. He responded that I must not turn base till I had the traffic in sight. I continued on the downwind until I had a helicopter in sight and reported it in sight. I turned base, final and followed that helicopter in. During the final approach I saw another helicopter that was hovering at an altitude I estimated to be approximately 1000 ft over the airport. It was not moving either vertically or horizontally. I continued the approach, keeping the helicopter in sight, landed and taxied off the runway near where the helicopter I followed had exited. The controller told me to call the tower on shutdown and gave me a phone number. I made a note of the tail number of the helicopter that I followed off. I called the tower, he asked me if I knew what I had done. I responded that I did not, and he informed me that I had landed '...underneath another aircraft...' the helicopter. I responded that I followed the helicopter (repeated the tail number that I had noted) in and it was clear of the runway when I landed. He said that I should have been aware that there was more than 1 helicopter in the pattern and that was not the one I was to follow. The one hovering was the one I was to land after. At no time during the final approach was any advisory to me (to slow down or go around) or the hovering helicopter given. I apologized to him, and then drove to where the helicopter was and apologized to them for landing underneath the hovering helicopter and explained the situation. The FBO was very gracious about it and indicated that there was no problem and appreciated my explanation. I had the hovering helicopter in sight during the entire approach and landing, and seeing no vertical or horizontal movement thought that he was hovering there and not landing. Also, since I saw the other helicopter clear the runway, I thought I was next to land. There was no imminent danger of collision, just a mix-up in communication. I am not trying to avoid responsibility for see and avoid.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C172 FOLLOWS WRONG HELI FOR LNDG AT HEF.
Narrative: I WAS FLYING A CESSNA 172N LNDG AT MANASSAS REGIONAL ARPT IN VIRGINIA. THE PATTERN WAS VERY BUSY WITH APPROX 5-7 LNDG ACFT BEING HANDLED AT ONCE. I WAS TOLD TO OVERFLY THE ARPT AT 2000 FT AND ENTER R BASE FOR RWY 34L, WHICH I DID AND DSNDED TO TPA (1200 FT). THE CTLR TOLD ME THAT I WAS 'CLRED TO LAND #3 AFTER THE ROBINSON HELI.' I REPEATED THIS AND TOLD HIM THAT I WAS TURNING BASE THIS TIME. HE RESPONDED THAT I MUST NOT TURN BASE TILL I HAD THE TFC IN SIGHT. I CONTINUED ON THE DOWNWIND UNTIL I HAD A HELI IN SIGHT AND RPTED IT IN SIGHT. I TURNED BASE, FINAL AND FOLLOWED THAT HELI IN. DURING THE FINAL APCH I SAW ANOTHER HELI THAT WAS HOVERING AT AN ALT I ESTIMATED TO BE APPROX 1000 FT OVER THE ARPT. IT WAS NOT MOVING EITHER VERTLY OR HORIZLY. I CONTINUED THE APCH, KEEPING THE HELI IN SIGHT, LANDED AND TAXIED OFF THE RWY NEAR WHERE THE HELI I FOLLOWED HAD EXITED. THE CTLR TOLD ME TO CALL THE TWR ON SHUTDOWN AND GAVE ME A PHONE NUMBER. I MADE A NOTE OF THE TAIL NUMBER OF THE HELI THAT I FOLLOWED OFF. I CALLED THE TWR, HE ASKED ME IF I KNEW WHAT I HAD DONE. I RESPONDED THAT I DID NOT, AND HE INFORMED ME THAT I HAD LANDED '...UNDERNEATH ANOTHER ACFT...' THE HELI. I RESPONDED THAT I FOLLOWED THE HELI (REPEATED THE TAIL NUMBER THAT I HAD NOTED) IN AND IT WAS CLR OF THE RWY WHEN I LANDED. HE SAID THAT I SHOULD HAVE BEEN AWARE THAT THERE WAS MORE THAN 1 HELI IN THE PATTERN AND THAT WAS NOT THE ONE I WAS TO FOLLOW. THE ONE HOVERING WAS THE ONE I WAS TO LAND AFTER. AT NO TIME DURING THE FINAL APCH WAS ANY ADVISORY TO ME (TO SLOW DOWN OR GO AROUND) OR THE HOVERING HELI GIVEN. I APOLOGIZED TO HIM, AND THEN DROVE TO WHERE THE HELI WAS AND APOLOGIZED TO THEM FOR LNDG UNDERNEATH THE HOVERING HELI AND EXPLAINED THE SIT. THE FBO WAS VERY GRACIOUS ABOUT IT AND INDICATED THAT THERE WAS NO PROB AND APPRECIATED MY EXPLANATION. I HAD THE HOVERING HELI IN SIGHT DURING THE ENTIRE APCH AND LNDG, AND SEEING NO VERT OR HORIZ MOVEMENT THOUGHT THAT HE WAS HOVERING THERE AND NOT LNDG. ALSO, SINCE I SAW THE OTHER HELI CLR THE RWY, I THOUGHT I WAS NEXT TO LAND. THERE WAS NO IMMINENT DANGER OF COLLISION, JUST A MIX-UP IN COM. I AM NOT TRYING TO AVOID RESPONSIBILITY FOR SEE AND AVOID.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.