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Attributes | |
ACN | 601847 |
Time | |
Date | 200312 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bos.airport |
State Reference | MA |
Altitude | msl single value : 1000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Ice Snow |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : a90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp pilot : private pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer |
Experience | controller military : 2 controller non radar : 2 controller supervisory : 2 flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 9650 flight time type : 2650 |
ASRS Report | 601847 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited adverse environment flight crew : overcame equipment problem |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather Aircraft Environmental Factor Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
Heavy snow, boston logan, airport reopened, third departure. Our carrier procedurally prohibits use of wing anti-ice from 0-1000 ft AGL. After check of wings following deicing, aircraft departed. At 800 ft AGL climb reduced to accelerate at 1000 ft AGL yoke hits aft stop, A300 will not climb. Captain flying activates wing anti-ice immediately when control (pitch) hits aft stop. Aircraft begins climb in 5 seconds, aft yoke pressure relaxed not needed and normal trim resumed. Entire climb embedded in heavy snow, IMC, and airmet turbulence to 20000 ft MSL. Callback conversation with reporter revealed the following information: reporter stated that the snow and precipitation was very heavy. They had deiced/anti-iced with type 4 fluid and indicated that the hold-over time was within limits. He additionally commented that the air carrier policy for waiting for the wing anti-ice system to be activated may be excessive when heavy precipitation is present.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A300 FLT CREW ENCOUNTERS AIRFRAME ICING DURING TKOF AND CLB FROM BOS.
Narrative: HVY SNOW, BOSTON LOGAN, ARPT REOPENED, THIRD DEP. OUR CARRIER PROCEDURALLY PROHIBITS USE OF WING ANTI-ICE FROM 0-1000 FT AGL. AFTER CHK OF WINGS FOLLOWING DEICING, ACFT DEPARTED. AT 800 FT AGL CLB REDUCED TO ACCELERATE AT 1000 FT AGL YOKE HITS AFT STOP, A300 WILL NOT CLB. CAPT FLYING ACTIVATES WING ANTI-ICE IMMEDIATELY WHEN CTL (PITCH) HITS AFT STOP. ACFT BEGINS CLB IN 5 SECONDS, AFT YOKE PRESSURE RELAXED NOT NEEDED AND NORMAL TRIM RESUMED. ENTIRE CLB EMBEDDED IN HVY SNOW, IMC, AND AIRMET TURB TO 20000 FT MSL. CALLBACK CONVERSATION WITH RPTR REVEALED THE FOLLOWING INFO: RPTR STATED THAT THE SNOW AND PRECIPITATION WAS VERY HVY. THEY HAD DEICED/ANTI-ICED WITH TYPE 4 FLUID AND INDICATED THAT THE HOLD-OVER TIME WAS WITHIN LIMITS. HE ADDITIONALLY COMMENTED THAT THE ACR POLICY FOR WAITING FOR THE WING ANTI-ICE SYS TO BE ACTIVATED MAY BE EXCESSIVE WHEN HVY PRECIPITATION IS PRESENT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.