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An MDS80 captain reported that he had to 'milk the flare' while landing at dfw in order to give the preceding aircraft time to clear the active.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 602443 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200312 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : dfw.airport |
| State Reference | TX |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : d10.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| ASRS Report | 602443 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other other : 5 |
| Consequence | faa : investigated faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
On the approach to dfw, the WX was clear and at least 50 mi visibility. I was given a visual to runway 36L. On final, the controller turned me in behind another aircraft. It was a little close and he asked me to slow down. I slowed to minimum approach speed with everything out and the spacing looked adequate. However, the preceding aircraft seemed to slow earlier than the controller planned, but the runway was clear for him and I believed that he had time to clear. When he landed, he again took longer than expected to clear and the tower asked him to expedite. I had plenty of runway and great WX, so I milked the flare until the aircraft ahead cleared well down the runway. It was close, but I felt entirely safe and legal. I had an FAA inspector in the jumpseat and he was irritated that the controller ran us so close. He, I, and the first officer agreed that I was legal, but he offered to make a call to approach control and talk to them. I told him that I didn't think it was necessary.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN MDS80 CAPT RPTED THAT HE HAD TO 'MILK THE FLARE' WHILE LNDG AT DFW IN ORDER TO GIVE THE PRECEDING ACFT TIME TO CLR THE ACTIVE.
Narrative: ON THE APCH TO DFW, THE WX WAS CLR AND AT LEAST 50 MI VISIBILITY. I WAS GIVEN A VISUAL TO RWY 36L. ON FINAL, THE CTLR TURNED ME IN BEHIND ANOTHER ACFT. IT WAS A LITTLE CLOSE AND HE ASKED ME TO SLOW DOWN. I SLOWED TO MINIMUM APCH SPD WITH EVERYTHING OUT AND THE SPACING LOOKED ADEQUATE. HOWEVER, THE PRECEDING ACFT SEEMED TO SLOW EARLIER THAN THE CTLR PLANNED, BUT THE RWY WAS CLR FOR HIM AND I BELIEVED THAT HE HAD TIME TO CLR. WHEN HE LANDED, HE AGAIN TOOK LONGER THAN EXPECTED TO CLR AND THE TWR ASKED HIM TO EXPEDITE. I HAD PLENTY OF RWY AND GREAT WX, SO I MILKED THE FLARE UNTIL THE ACFT AHEAD CLRED WELL DOWN THE RWY. IT WAS CLOSE, BUT I FELT ENTIRELY SAFE AND LEGAL. I HAD AN FAA INSPECTOR IN THE JUMPSEAT AND HE WAS IRRITATED THAT THE CTLR RAN US SO CLOSE. HE, I, AND THE FO AGREED THAT I WAS LEGAL, BUT HE OFFERED TO MAKE A CALL TO APCH CTL AND TALK TO THEM. I TOLD HIM THAT I DIDN'T THINK IT WAS NECESSARY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.