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Attributes | |
ACN | 604231 |
Time | |
Date | 200401 |
Day | Fri |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 33000 msl bound upper : 37000 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zzz.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 604231 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : company policies non adherence : published procedure other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : exited adverse environment |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Company Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
Aircraft climbed somewhat slowly to FL370. After leveloff in VNAV, first officer remarked 'watch the airspeed.' I looked up to see airspeed decelerating through 240 KTS (.76 mach) with power back at 1.4 EPR. I pushed the power up and checked everything. Autothrottles were on, VNAV path was engaged, autoplt was engaged, and the aircraft was wings level (no turn). Aircraft weighed 215000 pounds. Aircraft slowly accelerated to about .79 mach and would not go any faster. Cruise mach was .80 mach. Autothrottles were at maximum cruise setting (approximately 1.73 EPR). After about 30 seconds the autothrottles came back again to about 1.5 EPR and the cycle looked like it was going to repeat itself. After I pushed the throttles back up, we noticed that the deck angle at .79 mach was just over 5 degrees nose up. I asked the first officer to request FL330 and we immediately descended. After reaching FL330 no further problems noted of any kind in any autoflt mode. We spent some time checking everything: closeout weight versus FMS weight, performance cruise charts versus weight and temperature, and winds aloft and temperature for any signs of mountain wave. All the data indicated that the aircraft should have flown fine at FL370 except the deck angle. Autothrottles and autoplts seemed to be fine at FL330. I contacted dispatch through ACARS and he set up conference call with technician and we discussed the whole situation on the radio. I then requested a load audit be accomplished in mia to verify the aircraft weight. I also added about 5 KTS to my approach speed in mia in case we were heavy (vref +10 KTS). Approach felt normal.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B757 FLT PERFORMANCE AT FLT PLANNED ALT INDICATE POSSIBLE ERROR IN CLOSEOUT WT. PERFORMANCE NORMAL AFTER 4000 FT DSCNT.
Narrative: ACFT CLBED SOMEWHAT SLOWLY TO FL370. AFTER LEVELOFF IN VNAV, FO REMARKED 'WATCH THE AIRSPD.' I LOOKED UP TO SEE AIRSPD DECELERATING THROUGH 240 KTS (.76 MACH) WITH PWR BACK AT 1.4 EPR. I PUSHED THE PWR UP AND CHKED EVERYTHING. AUTOTHROTTLES WERE ON, VNAV PATH WAS ENGAGED, AUTOPLT WAS ENGAGED, AND THE ACFT WAS WINGS LEVEL (NO TURN). ACFT WEIGHED 215000 LBS. ACFT SLOWLY ACCELERATED TO ABOUT .79 MACH AND WOULD NOT GO ANY FASTER. CRUISE MACH WAS .80 MACH. AUTOTHROTTLES WERE AT MAX CRUISE SETTING (APPROX 1.73 EPR). AFTER ABOUT 30 SECONDS THE AUTOTHROTTLES CAME BACK AGAIN TO ABOUT 1.5 EPR AND THE CYCLE LOOKED LIKE IT WAS GOING TO REPEAT ITSELF. AFTER I PUSHED THE THROTTLES BACK UP, WE NOTICED THAT THE DECK ANGLE AT .79 MACH WAS JUST OVER 5 DEGS NOSE UP. I ASKED THE FO TO REQUEST FL330 AND WE IMMEDIATELY DSNDED. AFTER REACHING FL330 NO FURTHER PROBS NOTED OF ANY KIND IN ANY AUTOFLT MODE. WE SPENT SOME TIME CHKING EVERYTHING: CLOSEOUT WT VERSUS FMS WT, PERFORMANCE CRUISE CHARTS VERSUS WT AND TEMP, AND WINDS ALOFT AND TEMP FOR ANY SIGNS OF MOUNTAIN WAVE. ALL THE DATA INDICATED THAT THE ACFT SHOULD HAVE FLOWN FINE AT FL370 EXCEPT THE DECK ANGLE. AUTOTHROTTLES AND AUTOPLTS SEEMED TO BE FINE AT FL330. I CONTACTED DISPATCH THROUGH ACARS AND HE SET UP CONFERENCE CALL WITH TECHNICIAN AND WE DISCUSSED THE WHOLE SIT ON THE RADIO. I THEN REQUESTED A LOAD AUDIT BE ACCOMPLISHED IN MIA TO VERIFY THE ACFT WT. I ALSO ADDED ABOUT 5 KTS TO MY APCH SPD IN MIA IN CASE WE WERE HVY (VREF +10 KTS). APCH FELT NORMAL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.