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Attributes | |
ACN | 604725 |
Time | |
Date | 200401 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : msp.airport |
State Reference | MN |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Mixed |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 155 flight time total : 4573 flight time type : 680 |
ASRS Report | 604725 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : overcame equipment problem flight crew : declared emergency |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Company Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
We were rerted on a different arrival which required a new alternate on the 'north side' versus 'south side' of msp. We were in constant ACARS contact with company and updated them with fuel on board and fuel on arrival. Company dispatch needed to recalculate dlh as an alternate (or perhaps dlh and another alternate). Our original alternate wasn't acceptable with our 'new' arrival routing. The original alternate was rst (south side of msp). At this point, we had been reclred on our original flight planned arrival. This was communicated to the company. A few mins later, center notified us that our company had declared an emergency on our flight due to low fuel. We clarified that we were not having an emergency and there was some confusion at dispatch. The company was updated throughout this constantly with fuel remaining, fuel on board, and fuel on arrival -- with fuel on arrival at 2600 pounds, which equates to 80 mins of reserve/contingency fuel. Dispatch was seriously confused on the declaration of emergency fuel condition without any knowledge to the flight crew. At no time was the safety of the flight jeopardized. At no time were we not in contact with the company. At the time of this writing, company is researching the dispatch error. Our company fom defines the following: 'minimum fuel condition: less than 30 mins of flight time to fuel exhaustion.' 'emergency fuel condition: less than 20 mins of flight time to fuel exhaustion.' we taxied off the runway with 2600 pounds of fuel. We shut down at the gate with 2400 pounds of fuel.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW OF CRJ FEEL COMPANY WAS PRECIPITOUS IN DECLARING A FUEL EMER WITH ATC.
Narrative: WE WERE RERTED ON A DIFFERENT ARR WHICH REQUIRED A NEW ALTERNATE ON THE 'N SIDE' VERSUS 'S SIDE' OF MSP. WE WERE IN CONSTANT ACARS CONTACT WITH COMPANY AND UPDATED THEM WITH FUEL ON BOARD AND FUEL ON ARR. COMPANY DISPATCH NEEDED TO RECALCULATE DLH AS AN ALTERNATE (OR PERHAPS DLH AND ANOTHER ALTERNATE). OUR ORIGINAL ALTERNATE WASN'T ACCEPTABLE WITH OUR 'NEW' ARR ROUTING. THE ORIGINAL ALTERNATE WAS RST (S SIDE OF MSP). AT THIS POINT, WE HAD BEEN RECLRED ON OUR ORIGINAL FLT PLANNED ARR. THIS WAS COMMUNICATED TO THE COMPANY. A FEW MINS LATER, CTR NOTIFIED US THAT OUR COMPANY HAD DECLARED AN EMER ON OUR FLT DUE TO LOW FUEL. WE CLARIFIED THAT WE WERE NOT HAVING AN EMER AND THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION AT DISPATCH. THE COMPANY WAS UPDATED THROUGHOUT THIS CONSTANTLY WITH FUEL REMAINING, FUEL ON BOARD, AND FUEL ON ARR -- WITH FUEL ON ARR AT 2600 LBS, WHICH EQUATES TO 80 MINS OF RESERVE/CONTINGENCY FUEL. DISPATCH WAS SERIOUSLY CONFUSED ON THE DECLARATION OF EMER FUEL CONDITION WITHOUT ANY KNOWLEDGE TO THE FLT CREW. AT NO TIME WAS THE SAFETY OF THE FLT JEOPARDIZED. AT NO TIME WERE WE NOT IN CONTACT WITH THE COMPANY. AT THE TIME OF THIS WRITING, COMPANY IS RESEARCHING THE DISPATCH ERROR. OUR COMPANY FOM DEFINES THE FOLLOWING: 'MINIMUM FUEL CONDITION: LESS THAN 30 MINS OF FLT TIME TO FUEL EXHAUSTION.' 'EMER FUEL CONDITION: LESS THAN 20 MINS OF FLT TIME TO FUEL EXHAUSTION.' WE TAXIED OFF THE RWY WITH 2600 LBS OF FUEL. WE SHUT DOWN AT THE GATE WITH 2400 LBS OF FUEL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.