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A B737 flight crew inadvertently cross the hold short line of runway 24L at cle resulting in an aborted takeoff.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 607010 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200402 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : cle.airport |
| State Reference | OH |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | B737-300 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : cle.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : position and hold |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 180 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 6000 |
| ASRS Report | 607010 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 255 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 800 |
| ASRS Report | 607230 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | conflict : ground less severe incursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : far |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : issued advisory flight crew : rejected takeoff |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Airport Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
| Situations | |
| ATC Facility | procedure or policy : cle.tower |
| Airport | design : cle.airport markings : cle.airport signage : cle.airport |
Narrative:
After an uneventful landing on runway 24R at cle, we received the following clearance, 'flight number, cleared across runway 24C and hold short runway 24L at taxiway K.' as I proceeded to clear runway 24C, tower asked me if I was holding short of runway 24L. I immediately stopped the aircraft. My first thought was, 'why is he asking me this? I haven't even cleared runway 24C yet.' I soon realized that I had stopped past the hold short line for runway 24L, but short of the runway. Cle tower then canceled the takeoff clearance for another aircraft that had not yet taken the runway and cleared us across runway 24L to parking. How did this happen? I expected to clear runway 24C before I would have to hold short of runway 24L. But the close proximity of these runways does not allow this. You have to hold short of runway 24L on runway 24C. This makes the clearance 'cleared across runway 24C' somewhat misleading -- not an excuse, just an observation. I will bet my 401K that this runway incursion will happen again. I can only think of one way you can prevent this from happening again. ATC should hold everyone short of runway 24C until they are cleared to cross runway 24L. A less effective measure would be to change the clearance to 'hold short of runway 24L on runway 24C.' this new clearance would highlight the position of the unusual hold short line. I have just proven that the note on our aircraft chart will not prevent this in the future. Obviously, tower has seen this before and did a great job today. However, bad WX, night or a busy controller and we have an entirely different outcome. I have been to cle many times before and consider myself familiar with the airport. I was there the previous day, in fact. Supplemental information from acn 607230: I now realize the importance of keeping my head up and outside the aircraft. At the time of this incursion, I was accomplishing the after landing checklist.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737 FLT CREW INADVERTENTLY CROSS THE HOLD SHORT LINE OF RWY 24L AT CLE RESULTING IN AN ABORTED TKOF.
Narrative: AFTER AN UNEVENTFUL LNDG ON RWY 24R AT CLE, WE RECEIVED THE FOLLOWING CLRNC, 'FLT NUMBER, CLRED ACROSS RWY 24C AND HOLD SHORT RWY 24L AT TXWY K.' AS I PROCEEDED TO CLR RWY 24C, TWR ASKED ME IF I WAS HOLDING SHORT OF RWY 24L. I IMMEDIATELY STOPPED THE ACFT. MY FIRST THOUGHT WAS, 'WHY IS HE ASKING ME THIS? I HAVEN'T EVEN CLRED RWY 24C YET.' I SOON REALIZED THAT I HAD STOPPED PAST THE HOLD SHORT LINE FOR RWY 24L, BUT SHORT OF THE RWY. CLE TWR THEN CANCELED THE TKOF CLRNC FOR ANOTHER ACFT THAT HAD NOT YET TAKEN THE RWY AND CLRED US ACROSS RWY 24L TO PARKING. HOW DID THIS HAPPEN? I EXPECTED TO CLR RWY 24C BEFORE I WOULD HAVE TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 24L. BUT THE CLOSE PROX OF THESE RWYS DOES NOT ALLOW THIS. YOU HAVE TO HOLD SHORT OF RWY 24L ON RWY 24C. THIS MAKES THE CLRNC 'CLRED ACROSS RWY 24C' SOMEWHAT MISLEADING -- NOT AN EXCUSE, JUST AN OBSERVATION. I WILL BET MY 401K THAT THIS RWY INCURSION WILL HAPPEN AGAIN. I CAN ONLY THINK OF ONE WAY YOU CAN PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING AGAIN. ATC SHOULD HOLD EVERYONE SHORT OF RWY 24C UNTIL THEY ARE CLRED TO CROSS RWY 24L. A LESS EFFECTIVE MEASURE WOULD BE TO CHANGE THE CLRNC TO 'HOLD SHORT OF RWY 24L ON RWY 24C.' THIS NEW CLRNC WOULD HIGHLIGHT THE POS OF THE UNUSUAL HOLD SHORT LINE. I HAVE JUST PROVEN THAT THE NOTE ON OUR ACFT CHART WILL NOT PREVENT THIS IN THE FUTURE. OBVIOUSLY, TWR HAS SEEN THIS BEFORE AND DID A GREAT JOB TODAY. HOWEVER, BAD WX, NIGHT OR A BUSY CTLR AND WE HAVE AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT OUTCOME. I HAVE BEEN TO CLE MANY TIMES BEFORE AND CONSIDER MYSELF FAMILIAR WITH THE ARPT. I WAS THERE THE PREVIOUS DAY, IN FACT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 607230: I NOW REALIZE THE IMPORTANCE OF KEEPING MY HEAD UP AND OUTSIDE THE ACFT. AT THE TIME OF THIS INCURSION, I WAS ACCOMPLISHING THE AFTER LNDG CHKLIST.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.