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Attributes | |
ACN | 610932 |
Time | |
Date | 200403 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : mmex.artcc |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl single value : 35000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 610932 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | cabin event other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | FAA Flight Crew Human Performance Company Cabin Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
Couple of ideas: when the flight attendants enter the cockpit or leave, the pilots should let them in and let them out. The reason: greater control of the cockpit door opening and closing. If you're letting them out and a threat appears, you're in a position to grab the flight attendant and pull them in or push them out into the cabin. Sounds simple but it's very effective control of the door. If a threat was to throw something at the flight attendant that knocked them out, the likely scenario is they would fall directly on the galley cart in front of them assuring that they knocked themselves out. Most likely, their feet would be in the doorway preventing the door from being closed and we would be in our seats. The other safety suggestion would be to have the federal flight deck officer always answer the door since they are wearing the most effective tool to deal with the threat and the small amount of training they have had may give them a slight advantage.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B757-200 CAPT MADE SOME SAFETY SUGGESTIONS REGARDING THE COCKPIT DOOR POLICY AT HIS ACR.
Narrative: COUPLE OF IDEAS: WHEN THE FLT ATTENDANTS ENTER THE COCKPIT OR LEAVE, THE PLTS SHOULD LET THEM IN AND LET THEM OUT. THE REASON: GREATER CTL OF THE COCKPIT DOOR OPENING AND CLOSING. IF YOU'RE LETTING THEM OUT AND A THREAT APPEARS, YOU'RE IN A POS TO GRAB THE FLT ATTENDANT AND PULL THEM IN OR PUSH THEM OUT INTO THE CABIN. SOUNDS SIMPLE BUT IT'S VERY EFFECTIVE CTL OF THE DOOR. IF A THREAT WAS TO THROW SOMETHING AT THE FLT ATTENDANT THAT KNOCKED THEM OUT, THE LIKELY SCENARIO IS THEY WOULD FALL DIRECTLY ON THE GALLEY CART IN FRONT OF THEM ASSURING THAT THEY KNOCKED THEMSELVES OUT. MOST LIKELY, THEIR FEET WOULD BE IN THE DOORWAY PREVENTING THE DOOR FROM BEING CLOSED AND WE WOULD BE IN OUR SEATS. THE OTHER SAFETY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO HAVE THE FEDERAL FLT DECK OFFICER ALWAYS ANSWER THE DOOR SINCE THEY ARE WEARING THE MOST EFFECTIVE TOOL TO DEAL WITH THE THREAT AND THE SMALL AMOUNT OF TRAINING THEY HAVE HAD MAY GIVE THEM A SLIGHT ADVANTAGE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.