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Attributes | |
ACN | 612575 |
Time | |
Date | 200403 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : ptw.vortac |
State Reference | PA |
Altitude | msl single value : 13000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Jetstream 41 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 6100 flight time type : 150 |
ASRS Report | 612575 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 5000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Environmental Factor Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Talking to ZNY. Leveled off intermediately at 13000 ft MSL during climb. I was PNF giving IOE to a new first officer. ATC called out traffic 2 O'clock position, a jetstream at 14000 ft and I heard sebound. Advised ATC we had traffic in sight. ATC issued a visual climb to 17000 ft. Since we were nwbound and had the traffic in sight, I accepted the clearance. The first officer asked me if he should just climb up to 17000 ft and I said yes, as I had the traffic and again thought he was sebound. As soon as the PF started the climb, the TCASII issued a TA 'traffic, traffic.' I told the first officer to stop the climb for a moment. However, he already dialed in a 2000 FPM up vertical speed and was at climb thrust. I told him to level his climb rate immediately, at which point the TCASII generated an RA 'descend, descend.' he disconnected the autoplt, but took a lot of prompting from me to get the nose down and reduce thrust. We reached 13500 ft MSL and came within 1 NM of the jetstream. We finished the recovery back at 13000 ft, at which point the TCASII generated 'clear of conflict.' problems: 1) I heard traffic was sebound. He was really swbound. 2) I should have told the first officer to wait a moment on the climb to better analyze the visual traffic's track. 3) I should have intervened quicker during the TCASII TA, RA event and taken control as the first officer was new and not familiar with the control forces needed to maneuver quickly. Solutions: 1) I need to listen better to ATC when accepting a visual climb on an IFR flight plan. 2) if climbing to visually avoid traffic, I will take a min to observe that traffic and its track. 3) if in doubt, I will refuse the clearance in the future.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A CL65 RECEIVES A TCASII WHEN IT COMES WITHIN 1 MI OF A BA-4100.
Narrative: TALKING TO ZNY. LEVELED OFF INTERMEDIATELY AT 13000 FT MSL DURING CLB. I WAS PNF GIVING IOE TO A NEW FO. ATC CALLED OUT TFC 2 O'CLOCK POS, A JETSTREAM AT 14000 FT AND I HEARD SEBOUND. ADVISED ATC WE HAD TFC IN SIGHT. ATC ISSUED A VISUAL CLB TO 17000 FT. SINCE WE WERE NWBOUND AND HAD THE TFC IN SIGHT, I ACCEPTED THE CLRNC. THE FO ASKED ME IF HE SHOULD JUST CLB UP TO 17000 FT AND I SAID YES, AS I HAD THE TFC AND AGAIN THOUGHT HE WAS SEBOUND. AS SOON AS THE PF STARTED THE CLB, THE TCASII ISSUED A TA 'TFC, TFC.' I TOLD THE FO TO STOP THE CLB FOR A MOMENT. HOWEVER, HE ALREADY DIALED IN A 2000 FPM UP VERT SPD AND WAS AT CLB THRUST. I TOLD HIM TO LEVEL HIS CLB RATE IMMEDIATELY, AT WHICH POINT THE TCASII GENERATED AN RA 'DSND, DSND.' HE DISCONNECTED THE AUTOPLT, BUT TOOK A LOT OF PROMPTING FROM ME TO GET THE NOSE DOWN AND REDUCE THRUST. WE REACHED 13500 FT MSL AND CAME WITHIN 1 NM OF THE JETSTREAM. WE FINISHED THE RECOVERY BACK AT 13000 FT, AT WHICH POINT THE TCASII GENERATED 'CLR OF CONFLICT.' PROBS: 1) I HEARD TFC WAS SEBOUND. HE WAS REALLY SWBOUND. 2) I SHOULD HAVE TOLD THE FO TO WAIT A MOMENT ON THE CLB TO BETTER ANALYZE THE VISUAL TFC'S TRACK. 3) I SHOULD HAVE INTERVENED QUICKER DURING THE TCASII TA, RA EVENT AND TAKEN CTL AS THE FO WAS NEW AND NOT FAMILIAR WITH THE CTL FORCES NEEDED TO MANEUVER QUICKLY. SOLUTIONS: 1) I NEED TO LISTEN BETTER TO ATC WHEN ACCEPTING A VISUAL CLB ON AN IFR FLT PLAN. 2) IF CLBING TO VISUALLY AVOID TFC, I WILL TAKE A MIN TO OBSERVE THAT TFC AND ITS TRACK. 3) IF IN DOUBT, I WILL REFUSE THE CLRNC IN THE FUTURE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.