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Attributes | |
ACN | 615939 |
Time | |
Date | 200405 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mci.airport |
State Reference | MO |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : takeoff roll |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 8000 |
ASRS Report | 615939 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical non adherence : published procedure non adherence : company policies other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : overcame equipment problem flight crew : overrode automation |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Company Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
We had planned for a runway 19R departure going to las. We called for taxi and were given runway 19L. We had an FAA inspector on the jumpseat. While I taxied, the first officer calculated the takeoff data for runway 19L. With the new numbers, he entered into the FMC a reduction for 57 degrees which the computer provided. Unfortunately, that was simply the fahrenheit for 14 degrees celsius. I didn't catch that error until we advanced the throttles for takeoff to an N1 setting of 83.9. That's not a normal throttle position or engine noise level for takeoff. I suspected something wasn't right and pushed the throttles up to a more reasonable setting (in hindsight I should have pushed them to maximum) and the first officer continued with his takeoff. We rotated and lifted of at the correct V speeds but considerably down the runway. At climb thrust, the throttles were advanced to the appropriate climb power setting and we continued with a normal departure to las. The 'fed' remarked about the long takeoff roll. After clearing 10000 ft, we rechked the computer and it became clear what our error had been. We had input 57 degrees celsius into the FMC. Why does the computer generate fahrenheit numbers? We screwed up, but were 'misled' by the computer. We have no one to blame but ourselves since we input the bad data, nonetheless if that 57 degrees had not been on the takeoff output screen, it never would have been input to the FMC.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW OF B737-300 ENTER FAHRENHEIT VICE CELSIUS TEMP IN TKOF THRUST COMPUTER. MUCH LOWER THAN REQUIRED THRUST RESULTS.
Narrative: WE HAD PLANNED FOR A RWY 19R DEP GOING TO LAS. WE CALLED FOR TAXI AND WERE GIVEN RWY 19L. WE HAD AN FAA INSPECTOR ON THE JUMPSEAT. WHILE I TAXIED, THE FO CALCULATED THE TKOF DATA FOR RWY 19L. WITH THE NEW NUMBERS, HE ENTERED INTO THE FMC A REDUCTION FOR 57 DEGS WHICH THE COMPUTER PROVIDED. UNFORTUNATELY, THAT WAS SIMPLY THE FAHRENHEIT FOR 14 DEGS CELSIUS. I DIDN'T CATCH THAT ERROR UNTIL WE ADVANCED THE THROTTLES FOR TKOF TO AN N1 SETTING OF 83.9. THAT'S NOT A NORMAL THROTTLE POS OR ENG NOISE LEVEL FOR TKOF. I SUSPECTED SOMETHING WASN'T RIGHT AND PUSHED THE THROTTLES UP TO A MORE REASONABLE SETTING (IN HINDSIGHT I SHOULD HAVE PUSHED THEM TO MAX) AND THE FO CONTINUED WITH HIS TKOF. WE ROTATED AND LIFTED OF AT THE CORRECT V SPDS BUT CONSIDERABLY DOWN THE RWY. AT CLB THRUST, THE THROTTLES WERE ADVANCED TO THE APPROPRIATE CLB PWR SETTING AND WE CONTINUED WITH A NORMAL DEP TO LAS. THE 'FED' REMARKED ABOUT THE LONG TKOF ROLL. AFTER CLRING 10000 FT, WE RECHKED THE COMPUTER AND IT BECAME CLR WHAT OUR ERROR HAD BEEN. WE HAD INPUT 57 DEGS CELSIUS INTO THE FMC. WHY DOES THE COMPUTER GENERATE FAHRENHEIT NUMBERS? WE SCREWED UP, BUT WERE 'MISLED' BY THE COMPUTER. WE HAVE NO ONE TO BLAME BUT OURSELVES SINCE WE INPUT THE BAD DATA, NONETHELESS IF THAT 57 DEGS HAD NOT BEEN ON THE TKOF OUTPUT SCREEN, IT NEVER WOULD HAVE BEEN INPUT TO THE FMC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.