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Attributes | |
ACN | 616083 |
Time | |
Date | 200404 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : ilm.vortac |
State Reference | NC |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 5000 msl bound upper : 3500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : ilm.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee Arrow IV |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other vortac |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : ilm.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 1750 flight time type : 450 |
ASRS Report | 616083 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : student |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
On apr/thu/04, while on IFR flight plan in VFR conditions, our tcad went off and shortly afterward I was informed by the controller of traffic at 1 O'clock position. The wilmington, nc, approach controller informed me that they were not talking with the aircraft. It appeared that we were almost level with the C172 as we continued to close in. I informed the controller that I was going to climb from 3000 ft to 3500 ft for traffic separation. The controller informed me that I could not climb without controller's authority/authorized. I immediately informed the controller that I was climbing for traffic separation. The controller was initially short (disturbed that I told him that I was climbing), but then came back with clearance to 3500 ft. Based upon VFR conditions and proximity to the other traffic, I felt I took the appropriate actions to avoid a possible midair collision.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: IFR PA28 ARROW WITH ILM TRACON CLBS ABOVE ASSIGNED ALT BECAUSE OF TCAD ALERT.
Narrative: ON APR/THU/04, WHILE ON IFR FLT PLAN IN VFR CONDITIONS, OUR TCAD WENT OFF AND SHORTLY AFTERWARD I WAS INFORMED BY THE CTLR OF TFC AT 1 O'CLOCK POS. THE WILMINGTON, NC, APCH CTLR INFORMED ME THAT THEY WERE NOT TALKING WITH THE ACFT. IT APPEARED THAT WE WERE ALMOST LEVEL WITH THE C172 AS WE CONTINUED TO CLOSE IN. I INFORMED THE CTLR THAT I WAS GOING TO CLB FROM 3000 FT TO 3500 FT FOR TFC SEPARATION. THE CTLR INFORMED ME THAT I COULD NOT CLB WITHOUT CTLR'S AUTH. I IMMEDIATELY INFORMED THE CTLR THAT I WAS CLBING FOR TFC SEPARATION. THE CTLR WAS INITIALLY SHORT (DISTURBED THAT I TOLD HIM THAT I WAS CLBING), BUT THEN CAME BACK WITH CLRNC TO 3500 FT. BASED UPON VFR CONDITIONS AND PROX TO THE OTHER TFC, I FELT I TOOK THE APPROPRIATE ACTIONS TO AVOID A POSSIBLE MIDAIR COLLISION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.