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Attributes | |
ACN | 616645 |
Time | |
Date | 200405 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : 73j.airport |
State Reference | SC |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | military facility : nbc.milfac |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Small Aircraft, Low Wing, 1 Eng, Retractable Gear |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | climbout : takeoff ground : preflight |
Route In Use | departure : other published ifr departure |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | controller : radar pilot : atp pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Experience | controller radar : 26 flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 6500 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 616645 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : military |
Function | controller : approach |
Events | |
Anomaly | airspace violation : entry non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : issued advisory |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew Other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Called beaufort approach control on my cell phone while in the run-up area for runway 25 at 73J for my IFR clearance to spa (spartanburg, sc). I had the engine running at the time I received the clearance. I read back the clearance with the void time (4 mins) and then departed on runway 25 and called beaufort approach control (118.45) only to be told to maintain VFR and that my 'release time' was 20 mins past the hour (another 3 mins). I maintained VFR, was radar idented, cleared as filed to 6000 ft. I read back 20 past the hour as a void time, not a 'release time.' I would suggest the elimination of 'release time.' either issue the clearance with a void time or do not give the clearance, but call back later to avoid confusion. Also, an rco at 73J would be helpful.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: GA PLT IS CONFUSED WITH RELEASE PROC AND DEPS PRIOR TO IFR RELEASE TIME.
Narrative: CALLED BEAUFORT APCH CTL ON MY CELL PHONE WHILE IN THE RUN-UP AREA FOR RWY 25 AT 73J FOR MY IFR CLRNC TO SPA (SPARTANBURG, SC). I HAD THE ENG RUNNING AT THE TIME I RECEIVED THE CLRNC. I READ BACK THE CLRNC WITH THE VOID TIME (4 MINS) AND THEN DEPARTED ON RWY 25 AND CALLED BEAUFORT APCH CTL (118.45) ONLY TO BE TOLD TO MAINTAIN VFR AND THAT MY 'RELEASE TIME' WAS 20 MINS PAST THE HR (ANOTHER 3 MINS). I MAINTAINED VFR, WAS RADAR IDENTED, CLRED AS FILED TO 6000 FT. I READ BACK 20 PAST THE HR AS A VOID TIME, NOT A 'RELEASE TIME.' I WOULD SUGGEST THE ELIMINATION OF 'RELEASE TIME.' EITHER ISSUE THE CLRNC WITH A VOID TIME OR DO NOT GIVE THE CLRNC, BUT CALL BACK LATER TO AVOID CONFUSION. ALSO, AN RCO AT 73J WOULD BE HELPFUL.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.