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Attributes | |
ACN | 616734 |
Time | |
Date | 200405 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ewr.airport |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2500 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-82 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 616734 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial |
ASRS Report | 616997 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
Descended via dylin arrival for landing runway 22R at ewr. Cleared to descend to altitudes below 10000 ft with 'no' speed assignment. Slowed to usual initial approach speeds (210 KTS/180 KTS) during turns from downwind to base to final. Repeatedly reprimanded, on a very busy frequency, by ny approach for slowing. One quote from the controller was that 'the (aircraft) throttles belong to him,' in his airspace. This kind of irresponsible behavior is inexcusable in a busy terminal environment. If he had something he wanted to say to me, I would have been happy to call him on the land line. He tied up a busy TRACON frequency by repeatedly berating us for a circumstance he himself caused.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD80 LNDG EWR SLOWS AND IS CRITICIZED BY ATC EVEN THOUGH NO SPD WAS FORMALLY ISSUED.
Narrative: DSNDED VIA DYLIN ARR FOR LNDG RWY 22R AT EWR. CLRED TO DSND TO ALTS BELOW 10000 FT WITH 'NO' SPD ASSIGNMENT. SLOWED TO USUAL INITIAL APCH SPDS (210 KTS/180 KTS) DURING TURNS FROM DOWNWIND TO BASE TO FINAL. REPEATEDLY REPRIMANDED, ON A VERY BUSY FREQ, BY NY APCH FOR SLOWING. ONE QUOTE FROM THE CTLR WAS THAT 'THE (ACFT) THROTTLES BELONG TO HIM,' IN HIS AIRSPACE. THIS KIND OF IRRESPONSIBLE BEHAVIOR IS INEXCUSABLE IN A BUSY TERMINAL ENVIRONMENT. IF HE HAD SOMETHING HE WANTED TO SAY TO ME, I WOULD HAVE BEEN HAPPY TO CALL HIM ON THE LAND LINE. HE TIED UP A BUSY TRACON FREQ BY REPEATEDLY BERATING US FOR A CIRCUMSTANCE HE HIMSELF CAUSED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.