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Attributes | |
ACN | 616877 |
Time | |
Date | 200405 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ord.airport |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ord.tower |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 8000 |
ASRS Report | 616877 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : instrument pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 250 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 4000 |
ASRS Report | 616876 |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
Called clearance and they switched us over to ground control 121.75. After a brief wait, ground said to us to follow an aircraft off gate X. He may have called us aabc, but we were the only aircraft pushed that was in a position to follow gate X aircraft. Call sign sounded like AAAB, but was garbled. Ground was a rapid fire non-stop talk on ground and there was no chance to correct or clarify. Since we were only one in position to follow him, did so as to not miss our sequence. A like call sign unknown to us was also on frequency and was aabc, not AAAB, which we were. Each ground transmission was garbled and sounded to us like AAAB, but could have been aabc. Well, he was calling us aabc and we didn't get a chance to clarify until end of runway. Tower cleared aabc for takeoff and we then clarified with him. He was surprised but no problem, and gave us clearance for takeoff without hesitation. Aabc was a few aircraft behind us. This is an ongoing problem on 2 accounts: like call signs that are too close, and 2) the most important in my opinion, no chance for an aircraft to read back any clearance. They are rapid fire and this is very dangerous due to controller doesn't even know if we received it, let alone the correct route/hold short instructions. Supplemental information from acn 616876: obviously we taxied all the way to runway 22L with the mistaken belief that ATC was talking to us when in fact they believed they were issuing clrncs to another similar call sign aircraft. There was an FAA safety inspector on the jump seat who was also unaware of the call sign mix up. Contributing to this situation, the distraction of several minor maintenance issues just before departure with an FAA inspector on board.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 TAXIED FOR DEP AT ORD AS GND CTL USED WRONG CALL SIGN FOR CLRNC.
Narrative: CALLED CLRNC AND THEY SWITCHED US OVER TO GND CTL 121.75. AFTER A BRIEF WAIT, GND SAID TO US TO FOLLOW AN ACFT OFF GATE X. HE MAY HAVE CALLED US AABC, BUT WE WERE THE ONLY ACFT PUSHED THAT WAS IN A POS TO FOLLOW GATE X ACFT. CALL SIGN SOUNDED LIKE AAAB, BUT WAS GARBLED. GND WAS A RAPID FIRE NON-STOP TALK ON GND AND THERE WAS NO CHANCE TO CORRECT OR CLARIFY. SINCE WE WERE ONLY ONE IN POS TO FOLLOW HIM, DID SO AS TO NOT MISS OUR SEQUENCE. A LIKE CALL SIGN UNKNOWN TO US WAS ALSO ON FREQ AND WAS AABC, NOT AAAB, WHICH WE WERE. EACH GND XMISSION WAS GARBLED AND SOUNDED TO US LIKE AAAB, BUT COULD HAVE BEEN AABC. WELL, HE WAS CALLING US AABC AND WE DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO CLARIFY UNTIL END OF RWY. TWR CLRED AABC FOR TKOF AND WE THEN CLARIFIED WITH HIM. HE WAS SURPRISED BUT NO PROB, AND GAVE US CLRNC FOR TKOF WITHOUT HESITATION. AABC WAS A FEW ACFT BEHIND US. THIS IS AN ONGOING PROB ON 2 ACCOUNTS: LIKE CALL SIGNS THAT ARE TOO CLOSE, AND 2) THE MOST IMPORTANT IN MY OPINION, NO CHANCE FOR AN ACFT TO READ BACK ANY CLRNC. THEY ARE RAPID FIRE AND THIS IS VERY DANGEROUS DUE TO CTLR DOESN'T EVEN KNOW IF WE RECEIVED IT, LET ALONE THE CORRECT RTE/HOLD SHORT INSTRUCTIONS. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 616876: OBVIOUSLY WE TAXIED ALL THE WAY TO RWY 22L WITH THE MISTAKEN BELIEF THAT ATC WAS TALKING TO US WHEN IN FACT THEY BELIEVED THEY WERE ISSUING CLRNCS TO ANOTHER SIMILAR CALL SIGN ACFT. THERE WAS AN FAA SAFETY INSPECTOR ON THE JUMP SEAT WHO WAS ALSO UNAWARE OF THE CALL SIGN MIX UP. CONTRIBUTING TO THIS SIT, THE DISTR OF SEVERAL MINOR MAINT ISSUES JUST BEFORE DEP WITH AN FAA INSPECTOR ON BOARD.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.