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Small transport IOE instructor pilot turned off runway 8 onto taxiway G. The crew was confused by the hold short markings.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 617323 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200405 |
| Day | Thu |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : lws.airport |
| State Reference | ID |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : lws.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
| Make Model Name | Small Transport, Low Wing, 2 Turboprop Eng |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
| Flight Phase | landing : hold short landing : roll |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Aircraft 2 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tower : lws.tower |
| Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach landing : go around |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air taxi |
| Function | flight crew : captain instruction : instructor observation : company check pilot oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 6100 flight time type : 4000 |
| ASRS Report | 617323 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air taxi |
| Function | flight crew : first officer instruction : trainee |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : company policies non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert controller : issued new clearance controller : separated traffic flight crew : executed go around |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airport |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
During an IOE training flight, tower advised us after landing, traffic behind was on 1 mi final, no delay to the end of runway. Observing that my trainee was not taxiing fast enough to clear runway 8 in time for landing traffic, I instructed him to turn on taxiway and hold short of runway 11. This taxiway was closer and we cleared in time. Tower advised us that we were now on both runways. This was confusing, as we appeared to be within the hold short lines. Both aircraft on runways 11 and 8 were instructed to go around. Tower then cleared us to taxi. I believe that while traffic spacing was a factor, I feel that the confusing airport markings were to blame. This would be an even easier mistake for a private pilot in a small aircraft that would even more easily fit between the lines.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SMT IOE INSTRUCTOR PLT TURNED OFF RWY 8 ONTO TXWY G. THE CREW WAS CONFUSED BY THE HOLD SHORT MARKINGS.
Narrative: DURING AN IOE TRAINING FLT, TWR ADVISED US AFTER LNDG, TFC BEHIND WAS ON 1 MI FINAL, NO DELAY TO THE END OF RWY. OBSERVING THAT MY TRAINEE WAS NOT TAXIING FAST ENOUGH TO CLR RWY 8 IN TIME FOR LNDG TFC, I INSTRUCTED HIM TO TURN ON TXWY AND HOLD SHORT OF RWY 11. THIS TXWY WAS CLOSER AND WE CLRED IN TIME. TWR ADVISED US THAT WE WERE NOW ON BOTH RWYS. THIS WAS CONFUSING, AS WE APPEARED TO BE WITHIN THE HOLD SHORT LINES. BOTH ACFT ON RWYS 11 AND 8 WERE INSTRUCTED TO GO AROUND. TWR THEN CLRED US TO TAXI. I BELIEVE THAT WHILE TFC SPACING WAS A FACTOR, I FEEL THAT THE CONFUSING ARPT MARKINGS WERE TO BLAME. THIS WOULD BE AN EVEN EASIER MISTAKE FOR A PVT PLT IN A SMALL ACFT THAT WOULD EVEN MORE EASILY FIT BTWN THE LINES.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.