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Attributes | |
ACN | 617421 |
Time | |
Date | 200404 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 0001 To 0600 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : sdf.airport |
State Reference | KY |
Altitude | msl single value : 2500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sdf.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B757-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | other |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sdf.tracon |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 617421 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : company policies non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other anomaly |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : stick shaker (stall warning) other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : diverted to alternate |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Arriving sdf, 3 NM (on TCASII) behind another aircraft. Captain says to tell approach we have traffic ahead in sight and will accept a visual approach and follow traffic ahead. Captain assesses his distance behind preceding airplane and decides he is following too close, so he decides to start slowing down to get more spacing and also decides to square his turn from base leg to final to increase spacing. Captain sees that he is going to overshoot the runway centerline in his effort to square his turn from base to final, calls for some flaps, (5 degrees), but before the flaps can track down, he banks approximately 25 degrees to the right to correct the overshooting final turn and the 'stick shaker stall warning' activates. I note airspeed at 180 KIAS, bank 25 degrees, spoilers extended and flaps at 1 degree, slowly going to flaps 5 degrees. Aircraft gross weight probably at 180000 pounds is just a guess. Captain lowers spoilers and stall activation/warning ceases, flaps make it to 5 degree setting. Pilot and copilot had fixated on traffic ahead, aided by TCASII and subsequently distraction by overshooting turn to final. Crew/captain late in configuring with flaps and speed for developing situation. We will never know, but this may have been a 'save' on the part of the stick shaker stall warning system. Warning system at least warned crew of developing bad situation (accelerated stall). Shaker would/did likely terminate upon captain stowing spoilers/and flaps tracking to commanded position, and coming out of bank.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW OF B752 EXPERIENCE STALL WARNING ALERT ON APCH TO SDF, CA.
Narrative: ARRIVING SDF, 3 NM (ON TCASII) BEHIND ANOTHER ACFT. CAPT SAYS TO TELL APCH WE HAVE TFC AHEAD IN SIGHT AND WILL ACCEPT A VISUAL APCH AND FOLLOW TFC AHEAD. CAPT ASSESSES HIS DISTANCE BEHIND PRECEDING AIRPLANE AND DECIDES HE IS FOLLOWING TOO CLOSE, SO HE DECIDES TO START SLOWING DOWN TO GET MORE SPACING AND ALSO DECIDES TO SQUARE HIS TURN FROM BASE LEG TO FINAL TO INCREASE SPACING. CAPT SEES THAT HE IS GOING TO OVERSHOOT THE RWY CTRLINE IN HIS EFFORT TO SQUARE HIS TURN FROM BASE TO FINAL, CALLS FOR SOME FLAPS, (5 DEGS), BUT BEFORE THE FLAPS CAN TRACK DOWN, HE BANKS APPROX 25 DEGS TO THE R TO CORRECT THE OVERSHOOTING FINAL TURN AND THE 'STICK SHAKER STALL WARNING' ACTIVATES. I NOTE AIRSPD AT 180 KIAS, BANK 25 DEGS, SPOILERS EXTENDED AND FLAPS AT 1 DEG, SLOWLY GOING TO FLAPS 5 DEGS. ACFT GROSS WT PROBABLY AT 180000 LBS IS JUST A GUESS. CAPT LOWERS SPOILERS AND STALL ACTIVATION/WARNING CEASES, FLAPS MAKE IT TO 5 DEG SETTING. PLT AND COPLT HAD FIXATED ON TFC AHEAD, AIDED BY TCASII AND SUBSEQUENTLY DISTR BY OVERSHOOTING TURN TO FINAL. CREW/CAPT LATE IN CONFIGURING WITH FLAPS AND SPD FOR DEVELOPING SIT. WE WILL NEVER KNOW, BUT THIS MAY HAVE BEEN A 'SAVE' ON THE PART OF THE STICK SHAKER STALL WARNING SYS. WARNING SYS AT LEAST WARNED CREW OF DEVELOPING BAD SIT (ACCELERATED STALL). SHAKER WOULD/DID LIKELY TERMINATE UPON CAPT STOWING SPOILERS/AND FLAPS TRACKING TO COMMANDED POS, AND COMING OUT OF BANK.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.