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C172 pilot worked by phl TRACON experienced confusion and VFR in IMC while executing a practice ILS at ttn.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 618310 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200405 |
| Day | Mon |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : ttn.airport |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | msl single value : 2000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | Marginal |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : phl.tracon tower : ttn.tower tower : mht.tower |
| Operator | general aviation : personal |
| Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
| Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 6 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : instrument precision arrival : on vectors |
| Flight Plan | None |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | other |
| Function | flight crew : single pilot |
| Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : flight engineer pilot : cfi |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 18000 flight time type : 800 |
| ASRS Report | 618310 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : approach |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | inflight encounter : vfr in imc inflight encounter : weather non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Weather Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
WX was overcast 018. Departed ttn runway 6 and requested a frequency change to approach control for an ILS. Tower suggested a turn to the south and approved the frequency change. Climbed to 1200 ft and contacted philadelphia approach for a practice IFR approach. Philadelphia approach issued a clearance to turn right to a heading of 280 degrees and to maintain 2000 ft, which I did, climbing into the clouds. Approach control provided vectors for an ILS runway 6. When approach control issued clearance for the approach, the controller said to 'maintain VFR.' this was the first mention of any VFR restr. I advised the controller that I was IMC. The controller then said it wasn't any big deal and cleared me for the approach again. If the controller meant for me to maintain VFR when he issued the first clearance, he didn't say so. In the future, I suggest always issuing a VFR restr whenever it's intended.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: C172 PLT WORKED BY PHL TRACON EXPERIENCED CONFUSION AND VFR IN IMC WHILE EXECUTING A PRACTICE ILS AT TTN.
Narrative: WX WAS OVCST 018. DEPARTED TTN RWY 6 AND REQUESTED A FREQ CHANGE TO APCH CTL FOR AN ILS. TWR SUGGESTED A TURN TO THE S AND APPROVED THE FREQ CHANGE. CLBED TO 1200 FT AND CONTACTED PHILADELPHIA APCH FOR A PRACTICE IFR APCH. PHILADELPHIA APCH ISSUED A CLRNC TO TURN R TO A HDG OF 280 DEGS AND TO MAINTAIN 2000 FT, WHICH I DID, CLBING INTO THE CLOUDS. APCH CTL PROVIDED VECTORS FOR AN ILS RWY 6. WHEN APCH CTL ISSUED CLRNC FOR THE APCH, THE CTLR SAID TO 'MAINTAIN VFR.' THIS WAS THE FIRST MENTION OF ANY VFR RESTR. I ADVISED THE CTLR THAT I WAS IMC. THE CTLR THEN SAID IT WASN'T ANY BIG DEAL AND CLRED ME FOR THE APCH AGAIN. IF THE CTLR MEANT FOR ME TO MAINTAIN VFR WHEN HE ISSUED THE FIRST CLRNC, HE DIDN'T SAY SO. IN THE FUTURE, I SUGGEST ALWAYS ISSUING A VFR RESTR WHENEVER IT'S INTENDED.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.