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Heading track deviation noted by ATC when an MD80 first officer turns to 102 degrees after passing dvc, unable to receive the next VOR navigation point, the VORTAC at lvs.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 622232 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200304 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : lvs.vortac |
| State Reference | NM |
| Altitude | msl single value : 29000 |
| Environment | |
| Light | Daylight |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdv.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level |
| Route In Use | enroute : direct |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 176 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 3500 |
| ASRS Report | 622232 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 120 flight time total : 20000 flight time type : 10000 |
| ASRS Report | 622233 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance non adherence : company policies other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | atc equipment other atc equipment : radar other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory controller : issued new clearance |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Navigational Facility Flight Crew Human Performance Company ATC Human Performance Airspace Structure |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Our clearance from slc to iah was 'FFU6 ffu hve..dvc..lvs..txo..abi..llo..cll CUGAR1 iah.' over dvc VORTAC we were unable to receive lvs VORTAC. I turned to the heading shown on our flight plan. When frequency congestion permitted I called ZDC (125.67) to inform him of our not receiving lvs and requested a heading. The controller asked our present heading which I replied 'we just turned to 102 degrees.' he asked why we turned and I informed him that our clearance was direct lvs and since we were not receiving it I turned to the suggested heading in our flight plan. After a delay, he gave us a turn to 115 degrees for lvs and a phone number to call. The captain inquired as to why the phone number. The controller began to lecture us on navigation requirements and that we should have been navigating off of dvc for up to 230 NM. We informed him that there was no airway or direct route on our charts and the captain gave the controller dispatch's number and suggested that he call them and work out any flight plan problems for future flts. The controller refused to give his initials to us when asked and stated that 'his supervisor was well aware of the situation.' the captain then called dispatch on the flight deck phone and informed them of the situation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: HDG TRACK DEV NOTED BY ATC WHEN AN MD80 FO TURNS TO 102 DEGS AFTER PASSING DVC, UNABLE TO RECEIVE THE NEXT VOR NAV POINT, THE VORTAC AT LVS.
Narrative: OUR CLRNC FROM SLC TO IAH WAS 'FFU6 FFU HVE..DVC..LVS..TXO..ABI..LLO..CLL CUGAR1 IAH.' OVER DVC VORTAC WE WERE UNABLE TO RECEIVE LVS VORTAC. I TURNED TO THE HDG SHOWN ON OUR FLT PLAN. WHEN FREQ CONGESTION PERMITTED I CALLED ZDC (125.67) TO INFORM HIM OF OUR NOT RECEIVING LVS AND REQUESTED A HDG. THE CTLR ASKED OUR PRESENT HDG WHICH I REPLIED 'WE JUST TURNED TO 102 DEGS.' HE ASKED WHY WE TURNED AND I INFORMED HIM THAT OUR CLRNC WAS DIRECT LVS AND SINCE WE WERE NOT RECEIVING IT I TURNED TO THE SUGGESTED HDG IN OUR FLT PLAN. AFTER A DELAY, HE GAVE US A TURN TO 115 DEGS FOR LVS AND A PHONE NUMBER TO CALL. THE CAPT INQUIRED AS TO WHY THE PHONE NUMBER. THE CTLR BEGAN TO LECTURE US ON NAV REQUIREMENTS AND THAT WE SHOULD HAVE BEEN NAVING OFF OF DVC FOR UP TO 230 NM. WE INFORMED HIM THAT THERE WAS NO AIRWAY OR DIRECT RTE ON OUR CHARTS AND THE CAPT GAVE THE CTLR DISPATCH'S NUMBER AND SUGGESTED THAT HE CALL THEM AND WORK OUT ANY FLT PLAN PROBS FOR FUTURE FLTS. THE CTLR REFUSED TO GIVE HIS INITIALS TO US WHEN ASKED AND STATED THAT 'HIS SUPVR WAS WELL AWARE OF THE SIT.' THE CAPT THEN CALLED DISPATCH ON THE FLT DECK PHONE AND INFORMED THEM OF THE SIT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.