BE40 crew was cleared to taxi to runway 21L. The tower controller said they should not have crossed ...

Attributes
ACN	623203
Time
Date	200407
Day	Thu
Local Time Of Day	1801 To 2400
Place
Locale Reference	airport : luk.airport
State Reference	OH
Altitude	agl single value : 0
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Night
Aircraft 1
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	Beechjet 400
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Flight Phase	ground : taxi
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : corporate
Function	oversight : pic
Qualification	pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 4200 flight time type : 1000
ASRS Report	623203
Person 2
Affiliation	company : corporate
Qualification	pilot : cfi pilot : atp
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 3500 flight time type : 45
ASRS Report	624436
Events
Anomaly	incursion : runway non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure
Independent Detector	other controllera
Resolutory Action	none taken : detected after the fact
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance Airport ATC Human Performance
Primary Problem	ATC Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	other

Narrative:

Ground control instructions were to taxi from FBO via taxiway a to runway 21L. We taxied to a position between runway 25 approach end and runway 21L approach end and stopped. Ground control called to say we should have stopped prior to crossing runway 25. Being captain and on the radios, I apologized for the error, but am unclr about position of hold line for runway 21L. Supplemental information from acn 624436: my captain and I, both of us being type rated in the aircraft, and myself flying left seat on this leg) were given a taxi clearance to taxi from the FBO ramp at luk to runway 21. In order to 'taxi to runway 21,' we thought that we had to cross runway 25 at the threshold to hold short runway 21. After crossing the hold short line for runway 25 in order to hold short for runway 21, we were told by ground/tower that we should have held short for runway 25. I believe that a closer look at the airport diagram would have confirmed for us where we were to hold short, or would have prompted clarification from the tower if there was any question. I feel that a closer look at the airport diagrams on our (the crew's ) behalf will prevent this from happening again.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: BE40 CREW WAS CLRED TO TAXI TO RWY 21L. THE TWR CTLR SAID THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE CROSSED RWY 25 AT LUK.

Narrative: GND CTL INSTRUCTIONS WERE TO TAXI FROM FBO VIA TXWY A TO RWY 21L. WE TAXIED TO A POS BTWN RWY 25 APCH END AND RWY 21L APCH END AND STOPPED. GND CTL CALLED TO SAY WE SHOULD HAVE STOPPED PRIOR TO XING RWY 25. BEING CAPT AND ON THE RADIOS, I APOLOGIZED FOR THE ERROR, BUT AM UNCLR ABOUT POS OF HOLD LINE FOR RWY 21L. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 624436: MY CAPT AND I, BOTH OF US BEING TYPE RATED IN THE ACFT, AND MYSELF FLYING L SEAT ON THIS LEG) WERE GIVEN A TAXI CLRNC TO TAXI FROM THE FBO RAMP AT LUK TO RWY 21. IN ORDER TO 'TAXI TO RWY 21,' WE THOUGHT THAT WE HAD TO CROSS RWY 25 AT THE THRESHOLD TO HOLD SHORT RWY 21. AFTER XING THE HOLD SHORT LINE FOR RWY 25 IN ORDER TO HOLD SHORT FOR RWY 21, WE WERE TOLD BY GND/TWR THAT WE SHOULD HAVE HELD SHORT FOR RWY 25. I BELIEVE THAT A CLOSER LOOK AT THE ARPT DIAGRAM WOULD HAVE CONFIRMED FOR US WHERE WE WERE TO HOLD SHORT, OR WOULD HAVE PROMPTED CLARIFICATION FROM THE TWR IF THERE WAS ANY QUESTION. I FEEL THAT A CLOSER LOOK AT THE ARPT DIAGRAMS ON OUR (THE CREW'S ) BEHALF WILL PREVENT THIS FROM HAPPENING AGAIN.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.

BE40 crew was cleared to taxi to runway 21L. The tower controller said they should not have crossed runway 25 at luk.