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Attributes | |
ACN | 625136 |
Time | |
Date | 200407 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : f45.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl single value : 600 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : fay.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer & glide slope : 8 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | ground : takeoff roll |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : commercial |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 1350 flight time type : 400 |
ASRS Report | 625136 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : far other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb other other : 3 |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 200 vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Problem was initiated due to the practice of most people at local uncontrolled airports accommodating IFR traffic. The understanding that many people have been in the situation where they have been on both sides of scenario. Airport has no WX reporting and ATC has no responsibility for what happens after radar service is terminated and change to advisory occurs. However, they do clear you for opposite direction approach. In future, problem may be avoided by setting minimum altitude or distance from airport to abandon approach. Also, ATC having some knowledge of local conditions and traffic would help. Departed vero beach municipal (urb) on IFR flight plan to F45, then to sua (stuart) then back to urb. Purpose of flight was IFR training. After switching to palm beach approach, we were cleared for ILS runway 8R at F45. We were 2ND of 3 approaching IFR on ILS. After control authority/authorized the switch, we changed to advisory frequency and began making position reports for local traffic. Local traffic was using opposite direction runway. 2 aircraft were reporting. I verified they were making left traffic and that one was downwind and full stop. The second aircraft called and asked my intentions. After trying to work out a low approach with the 2ND aircraft, I was told by 2ND aircraft to do circle to land. 2ND aircraft took off and began climbing with knowledge of my presence on ILS. With aircraft in sight and unable to work out verbal agreement for low approach, I went missed and began to climb. Aircraft called and asked if I had them in sight. I stated I did and climbed on runway heading with aircraft passing opposite direction beneath me.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: WHILE MAKING AN IFR PRACTICE ILS APCH TO RWY 8 AT F45, A FLT INSTRUCTOR AND STUDENT HAVE A TFC CONFLICT WITH VFR TFC DEPARTING OPPOSITE DIRECTION.
Narrative: PROB WAS INITIATED DUE TO THE PRACTICE OF MOST PEOPLE AT LCL UNCTLED ARPTS ACCOMMODATING IFR TFC. THE UNDERSTANDING THAT MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN IN THE SIT WHERE THEY HAVE BEEN ON BOTH SIDES OF SCENARIO. ARPT HAS NO WX RPTING AND ATC HAS NO RESPONSIBILITY FOR WHAT HAPPENS AFTER RADAR SVC IS TERMINATED AND CHANGE TO ADVISORY OCCURS. HOWEVER, THEY DO CLR YOU FOR OPPOSITE DIRECTION APCH. IN FUTURE, PROB MAY BE AVOIDED BY SETTING MINIMUM ALT OR DISTANCE FROM ARPT TO ABANDON APCH. ALSO, ATC HAVING SOME KNOWLEDGE OF LCL CONDITIONS AND TFC WOULD HELP. DEPARTED VERO BEACH MUNICIPAL (URB) ON IFR FLT PLAN TO F45, THEN TO SUA (STUART) THEN BACK TO URB. PURPOSE OF FLT WAS IFR TRAINING. AFTER SWITCHING TO PALM BEACH APCH, WE WERE CLRED FOR ILS RWY 8R AT F45. WE WERE 2ND OF 3 APCHING IFR ON ILS. AFTER CTL AUTH THE SWITCH, WE CHANGED TO ADVISORY FREQ AND BEGAN MAKING POS RPTS FOR LCL TFC. LCL TFC WAS USING OPPOSITE DIRECTION RWY. 2 ACFT WERE RPTING. I VERIFIED THEY WERE MAKING L TFC AND THAT ONE WAS DOWNWIND AND FULL STOP. THE SECOND ACFT CALLED AND ASKED MY INTENTIONS. AFTER TRYING TO WORK OUT A LOW APCH WITH THE 2ND ACFT, I WAS TOLD BY 2ND ACFT TO DO CIRCLE TO LAND. 2ND ACFT TOOK OFF AND BEGAN CLBING WITH KNOWLEDGE OF MY PRESENCE ON ILS. WITH ACFT IN SIGHT AND UNABLE TO WORK OUT VERBAL AGREEMENT FOR LOW APCH, I WENT MISSED AND BEGAN TO CLB. ACFT CALLED AND ASKED IF I HAD THEM IN SIGHT. I STATED I DID AND CLBED ON RWY HDG WITH ACFT PASSING OPPOSITE DIRECTION BENEATH ME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.