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MD80 flight crew deviating around WX during the descent for lga is confused with ATC emergency declaration.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 625338 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200407 |
| Day | Fri |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | intersection : lizzi |
| State Reference | NJ |
| Altitude | msl single value : 10000 |
| Environment | |
| Weather Elements | Rain Thunderstorm |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zny.artcc tower : lax.tower |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| ASRS Report | 625338 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| ASRS Report | 625234 |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
| Resolutory Action | flight crew : took precautionary avoidance action flight crew : declared emergency |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Weather ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Weather |
Narrative:
While deviating around WX, center advised us to turn right to avoid traffic. We said we were unable as that would have put us into a thunderstorm. He replied that we had to turn or declare an emergency. We said ok, and he said ok, and then we were able to turn slightly in the direction he wanted. No further comments were made concerning the declaration and we were handed off to another frequency. We are not sure whether anything was declared or not. No further mention was made by anyone.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MD80 FLT CREW DEVIATING AROUND WX DURING THE DSCNT FOR LGA IS CONFUSED WITH ATC EMER DECLARATION.
Narrative: WHILE DEVIATING AROUND WX, CTR ADVISED US TO TURN R TO AVOID TFC. WE SAID WE WERE UNABLE AS THAT WOULD HAVE PUT US INTO A TSTM. HE REPLIED THAT WE HAD TO TURN OR DECLARE AN EMER. WE SAID OK, AND HE SAID OK, AND THEN WE WERE ABLE TO TURN SLIGHTLY IN THE DIRECTION HE WANTED. NO FURTHER COMMENTS WERE MADE CONCERNING THE DECLARATION AND WE WERE HANDED OFF TO ANOTHER FREQ. WE ARE NOT SURE WHETHER ANYTHING WAS DECLARED OR NOT. NO FURTHER MENTION WAS MADE BY ANYONE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.