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Attributes | |
ACN | 625483 |
Time | |
Date | 200407 |
Day | Sat |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : dca.airport |
State Reference | DC |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | EMB ERJ 135 ER&LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : parked |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
ASRS Report | 625483 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : company policies non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Company Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
Going into dca as flight XXX, I called in range for a gpu because our APU generator was inoperative. On the ground we called for a gpu. When we parked I left engine #2 running while we waited for a gpu. We waited around 5 mins before we got a gpu, but it did not work. So some of the ramp personnel went to get another gpu. While waiting, the fuel door opened. I called operations to let them know that I did not want to get fueled with the #2 engine running. The person in operations told me that the ramp people know this and would not let the fueler fuel. 1 min later, I saw the fuel going up, so I shut down the #2 engine. I talked to the ramp personnel/fueler and operations person and let them know that I did not want to get fueled with the #2 engine running. The passenger had all deplaned before the fueler had started fueling. I thought that we could only fuel with an engine running if it was the most distant engine running per flight manual 1 and if the station allowed it. Supplemental information from acn 625485: captain XXXX believes that we were in violation of our regulations.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ERJ135 PIC HAS PROBS WITH THE COMPANY POLICY RELATED TO FUELING WHILE AN ENG IS RUNNING AT THE GATE AFTER PAX HAVE DEPLANED AT DCA.
Narrative: GOING INTO DCA AS FLT XXX, I CALLED IN RANGE FOR A GPU BECAUSE OUR APU GENERATOR WAS INOP. ON THE GND WE CALLED FOR A GPU. WHEN WE PARKED I LEFT ENG #2 RUNNING WHILE WE WAITED FOR A GPU. WE WAITED AROUND 5 MINS BEFORE WE GOT A GPU, BUT IT DID NOT WORK. SO SOME OF THE RAMP PERSONNEL WENT TO GET ANOTHER GPU. WHILE WAITING, THE FUEL DOOR OPENED. I CALLED OPS TO LET THEM KNOW THAT I DID NOT WANT TO GET FUELED WITH THE #2 ENG RUNNING. THE PERSON IN OPS TOLD ME THAT THE RAMP PEOPLE KNOW THIS AND WOULD NOT LET THE FUELER FUEL. 1 MIN LATER, I SAW THE FUEL GOING UP, SO I SHUT DOWN THE #2 ENG. I TALKED TO THE RAMP PERSONNEL/FUELER AND OPS PERSON AND LET THEM KNOW THAT I DID NOT WANT TO GET FUELED WITH THE #2 ENG RUNNING. THE PAX HAD ALL DEPLANED BEFORE THE FUELER HAD STARTED FUELING. I THOUGHT THAT WE COULD ONLY FUEL WITH AN ENG RUNNING IF IT WAS THE MOST DISTANT ENG RUNNING PER FLT MANUAL 1 AND IF THE STATION ALLOWED IT. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 625485: CAPT XXXX BELIEVES THAT WE WERE IN VIOLATION OF OUR REGS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.