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Attributes | |
ACN | 631136 |
Time | |
Date | 200409 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : las.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | Rain |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : las.tower |
Operator | common carrier : charter |
Make Model Name | B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : multi engine pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial technician : airframe technician : powerplant |
Experience | flight time total : 15000 |
ASRS Report | 631136 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
As I taxied south on taxiway C1, it was necessary to make a right 90 degree turn, heading west on taxiway C. Halfway through the turn, I was pointed directly at a line-up of aircraft of many types. What caught my immediate attention was an air carrier Y B727 who had taxied no more than 1 airplane length behind a C208 cargo aircraft. By 1 aircraft length, I mean a C208 length, not a B727 length. I stopped aircraft movement, asked the first officer to note the very close position of the B727 to 'our' C208. He expressed surprise and concern to the closeness of the B727. We agreed that the aggressive nature of the B727 crew was totally out of character for a professional crew. Then, as we watched, dumbfounded, the B727 moved up to about 1/2 a C208 length behind the air carrier Z cessna. I flashed my landing lights at the B727, who was not 150 ft from me, just east of the C2 intersection, on taxiway B. The air carrier Y B727 stopped. The line-up on taxiway B had an air carrier zz, B737, followed by the air carrier Z, C208, followed by the B727. There were about 6 aircraft in front of air carrier zz waiting for departure. The air carrier Z cessna was holding a safe distance behind air carrier zz in order to avoid jet blast from the B737. I did not see any excessive distance between the cessna and the B737. Perhaps air carrier Y did not see it this way. Interestingly, a yellow truck was positioned at the southeast corner of the 'hold pad' and could have seen this situation. He was to my aircraft's right during my stop and our viewing of this development. The reason for this report was to document an aggressive and unprofessional operation of an aircraft in ground operations.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN A300 FLT CREW IS CONCERNED ABOUT HOW CLOSE A B727 PULLED UP BEHIND A C208.
Narrative: AS I TAXIED S ON TXWY C1, IT WAS NECESSARY TO MAKE A R 90 DEG TURN, HDG W ON TXWY C. HALFWAY THROUGH THE TURN, I WAS POINTED DIRECTLY AT A LINE-UP OF ACFT OF MANY TYPES. WHAT CAUGHT MY IMMEDIATE ATTN WAS AN ACR Y B727 WHO HAD TAXIED NO MORE THAN 1 AIRPLANE LENGTH BEHIND A C208 CARGO ACFT. BY 1 ACFT LENGTH, I MEAN A C208 LENGTH, NOT A B727 LENGTH. I STOPPED ACFT MOVEMENT, ASKED THE FO TO NOTE THE VERY CLOSE POS OF THE B727 TO 'OUR' C208. HE EXPRESSED SURPRISE AND CONCERN TO THE CLOSENESS OF THE B727. WE AGREED THAT THE AGGRESSIVE NATURE OF THE B727 CREW WAS TOTALLY OUT OF CHARACTER FOR A PROFESSIONAL CREW. THEN, AS WE WATCHED, DUMBFOUNDED, THE B727 MOVED UP TO ABOUT 1/2 A C208 LENGTH BEHIND THE ACR Z CESSNA. I FLASHED MY LNDG LIGHTS AT THE B727, WHO WAS NOT 150 FT FROM ME, JUST E OF THE C2 INTXN, ON TXWY B. THE ACR Y B727 STOPPED. THE LINE-UP ON TXWY B HAD AN ACR ZZ, B737, FOLLOWED BY THE ACR Z, C208, FOLLOWED BY THE B727. THERE WERE ABOUT 6 ACFT IN FRONT OF ACR ZZ WAITING FOR DEP. THE ACR Z CESSNA WAS HOLDING A SAFE DISTANCE BEHIND ACR ZZ IN ORDER TO AVOID JET BLAST FROM THE B737. I DID NOT SEE ANY EXCESSIVE DISTANCE BTWN THE CESSNA AND THE B737. PERHAPS ACR Y DID NOT SEE IT THIS WAY. INTERESTINGLY, A YELLOW TRUCK WAS POSITIONED AT THE SE CORNER OF THE 'HOLD PAD' AND COULD HAVE SEEN THIS SIT. HE WAS TO MY ACFT'S R DURING MY STOP AND OUR VIEWING OF THIS DEVELOPMENT. THE REASON FOR THIS RPT WAS TO DOCUMENT AN AGGRESSIVE AND UNPROFESSIONAL OP OF AN ACFT IN GND OPS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.