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Attributes | |
ACN | 631355 |
Time | |
Date | 200409 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : czqx.artcc |
State Reference | FO |
Altitude | msl single value : 36000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : czqx.artcc |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : czqx.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B777-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 17000 flight time type : 500 |
ASRS Report | 631355 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 1600 flight time type : 20 |
ASRS Report | 631354 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac inflight encounter : weather inflight encounter other non adherence : published procedure non adherence : required legal separation non adherence : far non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action none taken : detected after the fact other |
Consequence | other |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Weather Aircraft Airport |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
While en route to sondrestrom, due to lack of radio communication ability and unforecast 1SO temperatures as well as radically reduced forecasted tailwinds, our aircraft was running critically low on fuel, therefore the decision was made to climb to a altitude of 36500 ft (to avoid nat track altitudes) to conserve fuel. Additionally, there were no viable alternates for landing as current WX conditions could not be ascertained due to lack of viable communications abilities as previously stated. While en route at this altitude we observed an airliner that appeared to be intersecting our altitude and hence initiated a descent as we had limited ability to climb utilizing the TCASII information given. Subsequently, we continued at 28000 ft on to sondrestrom where the flight terminated. Supplemental information from acn 631347: while on track B at approximately XA17 GMT at approximately N6025.2 W05327.6 at FL360 I noticed TCASII 'pop-up' traffic about 20 NM south of track B heading in my direction. The aircraft popped up on the screen. When I first noticed the traffic, he was about 100 ft below my altitude. Then TCASII indicated that the traffic climbed to 400 ft above my altitude still headed directly towards us. As we were searching for a visual contact the TCASII TA went off. As I disconnected the autoplt, we got a TCASII resolution that commanded a descent. We descended to comply with the resolution commands. At about 500-600 ft in the descent we obtained a visual contact and it appeared that the traffic was also in a descent and our resolution changed to a climbing command. We complied with the instructions and the target passed below us at 500 ft or more on a precise collision course with our aircraft. With the event over we resumed our cruising altitude of 36000 ft and informed gander and dispatch of the event. The traffic appeared to be a cpr style jet with engines on the tail and appeared to have a blue tint to the aircraft. The sky was clear with a blue sky above. Our track was about '280' and his track was about '050. Aircraft X was behind us and 1000 ft below us. They also reported a TCASII traffic alert from this traffic.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: MU300 CREW HAD AN NMAC WITH A B777-200. THE MU300 CREW DID NOT ENCOUNTER FORECAST OUTSIDE AIR TEMPS, OR FORECAST TAILWINDS. THEY WERE NOT ABLE TO CONTACT THE CZQX NON RADAR CTLR. THEY UNILATERALLY CLBED TO 36500 FT.
Narrative: WHILE ENRTE TO SONDRESTROM, DUE TO LACK OF RADIO COM ABILITY AND UNFORECAST 1SO TEMPS AS WELL AS RADICALLY REDUCED FORECASTED TAILWINDS, OUR ACFT WAS RUNNING CRITICALLY LOW ON FUEL, THEREFORE THE DECISION WAS MADE TO CLB TO A ALT OF 36500 FT (TO AVOID NAT TRACK ALTS) TO CONSERVE FUEL. ADDITIONALLY, THERE WERE NO VIABLE ALTERNATES FOR LNDG AS CURRENT WX CONDITIONS COULD NOT BE ASCERTAINED DUE TO LACK OF VIABLE COMS ABILITIES AS PREVIOUSLY STATED. WHILE ENRTE AT THIS ALT WE OBSERVED AN AIRLINER THAT APPEARED TO BE INTERSECTING OUR ALT AND HENCE INITIATED A DSCNT AS WE HAD LIMITED ABILITY TO CLB UTILIZING THE TCASII INFO GIVEN. SUBSEQUENTLY, WE CONTINUED AT 28000 FT ON TO SONDRESTROM WHERE THE FLT TERMINATED. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 631347: WHILE ON TRACK B AT APPROX XA17 GMT AT APPROX N6025.2 W05327.6 AT FL360 I NOTICED TCASII 'POP-UP' TFC ABOUT 20 NM S OF TRACK B HDG IN MY DIRECTION. THE ACFT POPPED UP ON THE SCREEN. WHEN I FIRST NOTICED THE TFC, HE WAS ABOUT 100 FT BELOW MY ALT. THEN TCASII INDICATED THAT THE TFC CLBED TO 400 FT ABOVE MY ALT STILL HEADED DIRECTLY TOWARDS US. AS WE WERE SEARCHING FOR A VISUAL CONTACT THE TCASII TA WENT OFF. AS I DISCONNECTED THE AUTOPLT, WE GOT A TCASII RESOLUTION THAT COMMANDED A DSCNT. WE DSNDED TO COMPLY WITH THE RESOLUTION COMMANDS. AT ABOUT 500-600 FT IN THE DSCNT WE OBTAINED A VISUAL CONTACT AND IT APPEARED THAT THE TFC WAS ALSO IN A DSCNT AND OUR RESOLUTION CHANGED TO A CLBING COMMAND. WE COMPLIED WITH THE INSTRUCTIONS AND THE TARGET PASSED BELOW US AT 500 FT OR MORE ON A PRECISE COLLISION COURSE WITH OUR ACFT. WITH THE EVENT OVER WE RESUMED OUR CRUISING ALT OF 36000 FT AND INFORMED GANDER AND DISPATCH OF THE EVENT. THE TFC APPEARED TO BE A CPR STYLE JET WITH ENGS ON THE TAIL AND APPEARED TO HAVE A BLUE TINT TO THE ACFT. THE SKY WAS CLR WITH A BLUE SKY ABOVE. OUR TRACK WAS ABOUT '280' AND HIS TRACK WAS ABOUT '050. ACFT X WAS BEHIND US AND 1000 FT BELOW US. THEY ALSO RPTED A TCASII TFC ALERT FROM THIS TFC.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.