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Captain of B190 asserts cys TRACON fails to utilize appropriate clearance phraseology. Further states quality of TRACON transmitters is substandard. Both alleged shortcomings contribute to poorly managed circle to land approach.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 631693 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200409 |
| Day | Tue |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : cys.airport |
| State Reference | WY |
| Altitude | msl single value : 8000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | IMC |
| Weather Elements | Ice |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | tracon : cys.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air taxi |
| Make Model Name | Beech 1900 |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 135 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : instrument non precision |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air taxi |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 2800 flight time type : 1100 |
| ASRS Report | 631693 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air taxi |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence other other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | other |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Facility |
| Primary Problem | ATC Facility |
Narrative:
After reading NOTAMS prior to departure, first officer and I decided on VOR, circle-to-land runway 30 in cys. We were set up and prepared for this when we received a 020 degree vector to join the ILS runway 26, circle runway 30. The ILS and GS were notamed OTS. We accepted the vector and since no mention was made of OTS GS, as is required by aim 5-4-6(D), we assumed no problems. But by the time we joined the localizer course, the 'GS' flag was still red. We queried cys approach who stated then 'GS OTS.' at this point we quickly switched our procedure at about the OM/horse. Further, inside the LOM, cys approach issued a strange clearance(?) to 'in case of miss, climb to 9000 ft, right direct cys VORTAC.' due to very poor radios at cys approach control, I understood 'air taxi, execute missed approach...' and started to add power. My first officer cleared up the mess and we landed without incident. Please fix the radios and get these guys to follow the aim!
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CAPT OF B190 ASSERTS CYS TRACON FAILS TO UTILIZE APPROPRIATE CLRNC PHRASEOLOGY. FURTHER STATES QUALITY OF TRACON XMITTERS IS SUBSTANDARD. BOTH ALLEGED SHORTCOMINGS CONTRIBUTE TO POORLY MANAGED CIRCLE TO LAND APCH.
Narrative: AFTER READING NOTAMS PRIOR TO DEP, FO AND I DECIDED ON VOR, CIRCLE-TO-LAND RWY 30 IN CYS. WE WERE SET UP AND PREPARED FOR THIS WHEN WE RECEIVED A 020 DEG VECTOR TO JOIN THE ILS RWY 26, CIRCLE RWY 30. THE ILS AND GS WERE NOTAMED OTS. WE ACCEPTED THE VECTOR AND SINCE NO MENTION WAS MADE OF OTS GS, AS IS REQUIRED BY AIM 5-4-6(D), WE ASSUMED NO PROBS. BUT BY THE TIME WE JOINED THE LOC COURSE, THE 'GS' FLAG WAS STILL RED. WE QUERIED CYS APCH WHO STATED THEN 'GS OTS.' AT THIS POINT WE QUICKLY SWITCHED OUR PROC AT ABOUT THE OM/HORSE. FURTHER, INSIDE THE LOM, CYS APCH ISSUED A STRANGE CLRNC(?) TO 'IN CASE OF MISS, CLB TO 9000 FT, R DIRECT CYS VORTAC.' DUE TO VERY POOR RADIOS AT CYS APCH CTL, I UNDERSTOOD 'AIR TAXI, EXECUTE MISSED APCH...' AND STARTED TO ADD PWR. MY FO CLRED UP THE MESS AND WE LANDED WITHOUT INCIDENT. PLEASE FIX THE RADIOS AND GET THESE GUYS TO FOLLOW THE AIM!
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.