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An MD80 pilot is concerned that the airport diagram doesn't show where the center ramp is at yul.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 631868 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200409 |
| Day | Wed |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | airport : cyul.airport |
| State Reference | FO |
| Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| ASRS Report | 631868 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | other anomaly other |
| Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Flight Crew Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
Narrative:
Apron control gave us directions to follow an air carrier Y airplane through the center ramp to runway 28. We had a difficult time determining where the center ramp was. If it weren't for the air carrier Y airplane going via the same route, we would have had to ask the apron controller for progressive. Not a big deal, except the apron controller was very hard to understand. The only indication of where the center ramp is located is on a note on the page for yul. It would be a lot easier if the center ramp was highlighted better on this page or the main airport page. At the same time, the taxiway/area of the ramp north of the terminal area does not appear to be marked with any idents. Other aircraft taxiing while we were taxiing were also having difficulty finding the center ramp area.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN MD80 PLT IS CONCERNED THAT THE ARPT DIAGRAM DOESN'T SHOW WHERE THE CTR RAMP IS AT YUL.
Narrative: APRON CTL GAVE US DIRECTIONS TO FOLLOW AN ACR Y AIRPLANE THROUGH THE CTR RAMP TO RWY 28. WE HAD A DIFFICULT TIME DETERMINING WHERE THE CTR RAMP WAS. IF IT WEREN'T FOR THE ACR Y AIRPLANE GOING VIA THE SAME RTE, WE WOULD HAVE HAD TO ASK THE APRON CTLR FOR PROGRESSIVE. NOT A BIG DEAL, EXCEPT THE APRON CTLR WAS VERY HARD TO UNDERSTAND. THE ONLY INDICATION OF WHERE THE CTR RAMP IS LOCATED IS ON A NOTE ON THE PAGE FOR YUL. IT WOULD BE A LOT EASIER IF THE CTR RAMP WAS HIGHLIGHTED BETTER ON THIS PAGE OR THE MAIN ARPT PAGE. AT THE SAME TIME, THE TXWY/AREA OF THE RAMP N OF THE TERMINAL AREA DOES NOT APPEAR TO BE MARKED WITH ANY IDENTS. OTHER ACFT TAXIING WHILE WE WERE TAXIING WERE ALSO HAVING DIFFICULTY FINDING THE CTR RAMP AREA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.