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Attributes | |
ACN | 633696 |
Time | |
Date | 200410 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | navaid : mzb.vortac |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 2600 msl bound upper : 5000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | military facility : nkx.milfac |
Operator | common carrier : charter |
Make Model Name | SA-227 AC Metro III |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | cruise : level |
Route In Use | enroute : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Operator | other |
Make Model Name | Hornet (F-18) |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : charter |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 135 flight time total : 860 flight time type : 135 |
ASRS Report | 633696 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : charter |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 3400 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 633697 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 300 vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
This report is to the best of my recollection as the first officer and PF. We were on an IFR flight plan flying from navy san clemente island to navy north island on an assigned heading of 110 degrees and level at our cruise altitude of 5000 ft MSL. At the time we were under beaver control with a normal IFR transponder code. Our TCASII alerted due to traffic on our 6 O'clock position and 500 ft below us. While noticing that the traffic was getting closer and becoming our same altitude, beaver control announced the traffic and said that they were not talking to the aircraft but that it was an F18. After determining that there was definitely a midair collision threat, I pitched down sharply to avoid the traffic and then I notice that the traffic seemed to be descending rapidly with us. While it was still closing in, I then banked sharply to the left and turned about 30 degrees. Our attitude was about 15 degrees pitch down and about 45 degrees of left bank. About 3 seconds after that, and descending through 2600 ft MSL, the F18 passed about 300 ft over the top of us. The aircraft passed over us from our 7 O'clock position to our 1 O'clock position. We resumed our newly assigned heading of 090 degrees and altitude of 3000 ft. Beaver control never gave us instructions for collision avoidance. We only saw the aircraft after it was no longer a threat due to it approaching us from behind. I am not sure if this was a possible midair collision situation. We treated the event as if it were and acted accordingly. The pilot of the F18 may have confused us with one of his 'playmates' in a training exercise. Whether he ever saw us or not, we do not know at this time.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SA227 CREW HAD AN NMAC WITH AN F18 IN MIL AIRSPACE.
Narrative: THIS RPT IS TO THE BEST OF MY RECOLLECTION AS THE FO AND PF. WE WERE ON AN IFR FLT PLAN FLYING FROM NAVY SAN CLEMENTE ISLAND TO NAVY NORTH ISLAND ON AN ASSIGNED HDG OF 110 DEGS AND LEVEL AT OUR CRUISE ALT OF 5000 FT MSL. AT THE TIME WE WERE UNDER BEAVER CTL WITH A NORMAL IFR XPONDER CODE. OUR TCASII ALERTED DUE TO TFC ON OUR 6 O'CLOCK POS AND 500 FT BELOW US. WHILE NOTICING THAT THE TFC WAS GETTING CLOSER AND BECOMING OUR SAME ALT, BEAVER CTL ANNOUNCED THE TFC AND SAID THAT THEY WERE NOT TALKING TO THE ACFT BUT THAT IT WAS AN F18. AFTER DETERMINING THAT THERE WAS DEFINITELY A MIDAIR COLLISION THREAT, I PITCHED DOWN SHARPLY TO AVOID THE TFC AND THEN I NOTICE THAT THE TFC SEEMED TO BE DESCENDING RAPIDLY WITH US. WHILE IT WAS STILL CLOSING IN, I THEN BANKED SHARPLY TO THE L AND TURNED ABOUT 30 DEGS. OUR ATTITUDE WAS ABOUT 15 DEGS PITCH DOWN AND ABOUT 45 DEGS OF L BANK. ABOUT 3 SECONDS AFTER THAT, AND DSNDING THROUGH 2600 FT MSL, THE F18 PASSED ABOUT 300 FT OVER THE TOP OF US. THE ACFT PASSED OVER US FROM OUR 7 O'CLOCK POS TO OUR 1 O'CLOCK POS. WE RESUMED OUR NEWLY ASSIGNED HDG OF 090 DEGS AND ALT OF 3000 FT. BEAVER CTL NEVER GAVE US INSTRUCTIONS FOR COLLISION AVOIDANCE. WE ONLY SAW THE ACFT AFTER IT WAS NO LONGER A THREAT DUE TO IT APCHING US FROM BEHIND. I AM NOT SURE IF THIS WAS A POSSIBLE MIDAIR COLLISION SIT. WE TREATED THE EVENT AS IF IT WERE AND ACTED ACCORDINGLY. THE PLT OF THE F18 MAY HAVE CONFUSED US WITH ONE OF HIS 'PLAYMATES' IN A TRAINING EXERCISE. WHETHER HE EVER SAW US OR NOT, WE DO NOT KNOW AT THIS TIME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.