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Attributes | |
ACN | 634387 |
Time | |
Date | 200410 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 6000 msl bound upper : 7200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : zzz.tracon |
Make Model Name | DC-10 30 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : zzz.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | BAe 146 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 9000 flight time type : 6000 |
ASRS Report | 634387 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 50 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 17 |
ASRS Report | 634673 |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : overshoot conflict : airborne critical non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : returned to assigned altitude |
Consequence | faa : assigned or threatened penalties |
Miss Distance | vertical : 800 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Our flight took off from runway 18L at ZZZ. Clearance was to fly heading 180 degrees and climb to 5000 ft. Next ATC clearance was to turn right to a heading of 270 degrees and climb to 7000 ft MSL. Autoplt was engaged approaching 6000 ft. We were climbing at approximately 4000 FPM prior to autoplt engagement. At about 6000 ft we received a TCASII traffic alert. ZZZ departure control advised of traffic at our 10-11 O'clock position. We saw traffic visually at our 11 O'clock position and were told it was at 8000 ft MSL. At approximately 6300 ft MSL we received a TCASII RA which showed a green band climb up to 1500 FPM with red band above 1500 FPM. Autoplt was disconnected and climb was adjusted to less than 1500 FPM to follow the RA. The RA was followed until approximately 7100 ft MSL when the TCASII announced, 'clear of conflict.' not being sure that the traffic in sight was the cause of our TCASII RA, I continued to follow the TCASII RA past 7000 ft MSL to approximately 7100 ft MSL where the TCASII announced 'clear of conflict.' we topped out our climb at 7200 ft MSL and then returned to 7000 ft. ATC said to maintain 7000 ft. We informed ATC that we had a TCASII RA. No more was said until descending into aus with ZFW. We were told to call ZZZ TRACON and they gave us a phone number. After landing, I called and was told they were going to file a pilot deviation report. As a contributing factor: I would have to question the 270 degree heading and climb to 7000 ft clearance that resulted in the TCASII RA. I believe the crew followed correct procedure in responding to a TCASII RA. Supplemental information from acn 634673: we were not told of any traffic prior to our 270 degree heading vector.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW OF DC10-30 THREATENED WITH VIOLATION BY TRACON WHEN ALLEGEDLY COMPLYING WITH TCASII RA RESULTS IN CLB ABOVE CLRED ALT.
Narrative: OUR FLT TOOK OFF FROM RWY 18L AT ZZZ. CLRNC WAS TO FLY HDG 180 DEGS AND CLB TO 5000 FT. NEXT ATC CLRNC WAS TO TURN R TO A HDG OF 270 DEGS AND CLB TO 7000 FT MSL. AUTOPLT WAS ENGAGED APCHING 6000 FT. WE WERE CLBING AT APPROX 4000 FPM PRIOR TO AUTOPLT ENGAGEMENT. AT ABOUT 6000 FT WE RECEIVED A TCASII TFC ALERT. ZZZ DEP CTL ADVISED OF TFC AT OUR 10-11 O'CLOCK POS. WE SAW TFC VISUALLY AT OUR 11 O'CLOCK POS AND WERE TOLD IT WAS AT 8000 FT MSL. AT APPROX 6300 FT MSL WE RECEIVED A TCASII RA WHICH SHOWED A GREEN BAND CLB UP TO 1500 FPM WITH RED BAND ABOVE 1500 FPM. AUTOPLT WAS DISCONNECTED AND CLB WAS ADJUSTED TO LESS THAN 1500 FPM TO FOLLOW THE RA. THE RA WAS FOLLOWED UNTIL APPROX 7100 FT MSL WHEN THE TCASII ANNOUNCED, 'CLR OF CONFLICT.' NOT BEING SURE THAT THE TFC IN SIGHT WAS THE CAUSE OF OUR TCASII RA, I CONTINUED TO FOLLOW THE TCASII RA PAST 7000 FT MSL TO APPROX 7100 FT MSL WHERE THE TCASII ANNOUNCED 'CLR OF CONFLICT.' WE TOPPED OUT OUR CLB AT 7200 FT MSL AND THEN RETURNED TO 7000 FT. ATC SAID TO MAINTAIN 7000 FT. WE INFORMED ATC THAT WE HAD A TCASII RA. NO MORE WAS SAID UNTIL DSNDING INTO AUS WITH ZFW. WE WERE TOLD TO CALL ZZZ TRACON AND THEY GAVE US A PHONE NUMBER. AFTER LNDG, I CALLED AND WAS TOLD THEY WERE GOING TO FILE A PLTDEV RPT. AS A CONTRIBUTING FACTOR: I WOULD HAVE TO QUESTION THE 270 DEG HDG AND CLB TO 7000 FT CLRNC THAT RESULTED IN THE TCASII RA. I BELIEVE THE CREW FOLLOWED CORRECT PROC IN RESPONDING TO A TCASII RA. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 634673: WE WERE NOT TOLD OF ANY TFC PRIOR TO OUR 270 DEG HDG VECTOR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.