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CL65 flight crew is corrected by the ZDC radar controller when entering the holding pattern in the wrong direction over the VORTAC at hpw.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 635830 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200410 |
| Day | Sun |
| Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | navaid : hpw.vortac |
| State Reference | VA |
| Altitude | msl single value : 28000 |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc.artcc |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65, Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Navigation In Use | other other vortac |
| Flight Phase | cruise : level cruise : holding |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Qualification | pilot : cfi pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : atp |
| Experience | flight time last 90 days : 200 flight time total : 5500 flight time type : 4000 |
| ASRS Report | 635830 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : first officer |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance other anomaly other other spatial deviation |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory flight crew : became reoriented flight crew : returned to original clearance |
| Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft Airspace Structure |
| Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
10 mi prior to hpw VOR, center gave us holding instructions at hpw VOR. They stated to hold (south of) hpw VOR as published, efc time of XA40Z. Not having a chart readily available to see what 'as published' was, we entered the hold into our FMS. Our FMS created a hold at hpw with r-hand turns. With only 10 NM, traveling at 300 KIAS we were not able to find the appropriate chart and published hold prior to entering it. As we entered the hold, we stated that our flight was entering the hold and we were making right turns. We were immediately corrected by center. The published hold states left turns. We told the center we did not have time to locate the published hold. We turned immediately to the left and corrected our mistake. We do not believe we were ever outside the protected holding airspace because the error was corrected immediately. This all could have been avoided by informing us inbound radials/direction of turns initially or giving us more than 10 NM of notice prior to holding.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CL65 FLT CREW IS CORRECTED BY THE ZDC RADAR CTLR WHEN ENTERING THE HOLDING PATTERN IN THE WRONG DIRECTION OVER THE VORTAC AT HPW.
Narrative: 10 MI PRIOR TO HPW VOR, CTR GAVE US HOLDING INSTRUCTIONS AT HPW VOR. THEY STATED TO HOLD (S OF) HPW VOR AS PUBLISHED, EFC TIME OF XA40Z. NOT HAVING A CHART READILY AVAILABLE TO SEE WHAT 'AS PUBLISHED' WAS, WE ENTERED THE HOLD INTO OUR FMS. OUR FMS CREATED A HOLD AT HPW WITH R-HAND TURNS. WITH ONLY 10 NM, TRAVELING AT 300 KIAS WE WERE NOT ABLE TO FIND THE APPROPRIATE CHART AND PUBLISHED HOLD PRIOR TO ENTERING IT. AS WE ENTERED THE HOLD, WE STATED THAT OUR FLT WAS ENTERING THE HOLD AND WE WERE MAKING R TURNS. WE WERE IMMEDIATELY CORRECTED BY CTR. THE PUBLISHED HOLD STATES L TURNS. WE TOLD THE CTR WE DID NOT HAVE TIME TO LOCATE THE PUBLISHED HOLD. WE TURNED IMMEDIATELY TO THE L AND CORRECTED OUR MISTAKE. WE DO NOT BELIEVE WE WERE EVER OUTSIDE THE PROTECTED HOLDING AIRSPACE BECAUSE THE ERROR WAS CORRECTED IMMEDIATELY. THIS ALL COULD HAVE BEEN AVOIDED BY INFORMING US INBOUND RADIALS/DIRECTION OF TURNS INITIALLY OR GIVING US MORE THAN 10 NM OF NOTICE PRIOR TO HOLDING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.