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Attributes | |
ACN | 636253 |
Time | |
Date | 200411 |
Day | Fri |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : bfi.airport |
State Reference | WA |
Altitude | agl single value : 200 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | other |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : bfi.tower |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : bfi.tower |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skyhawk 172/Cutlass 172 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | None |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 400 flight time total : 1680 flight time type : 900 |
ASRS Report | 636253 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : private |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 20 flight time total : 64 flight time type : 4 |
ASRS Report | 636254 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : nmac non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 10 vertical : 0 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
We were in the runway 13L pattern for touch and gos when we had a near midair on very short final. Tower asked me if I had my traffic in sight and I replied, 'no, I am on short final.' he then told the other airplane to go around at which time they came up from under us and the near miss happened. We missed by about 10 ft. We rolled into a steep right turn at about 150-200 ft AGL to avoid them. I do not exactly remember what was told to us on downwind, but I can guarantee we were not told that we were #3 on approach. After we landed, I talked to the other pilot and he informed me that he was told to extend his downwind for another airplane on a long straight in. This happened while I was on the upwind. I believe I was cleared #2. Our tower has also been conducting training and that was the case tonight. There were three or four instances where the supervisor would get on the radio and correct the trainee. This happened in the moments before the near midair. I feel that there were a quite few people to blame. Me and my student did not see and avoid. The tower controller did not tell us about the traffic, and to a lesser degree, the other plane did not see and avoid. There were two pilots in that plane. Any one of the six of us (including the tower supervisor) could have prevented this. The fact that it happened at night, in light haze, and with a training controller doesn't help the situation. Not sure what to suggest other than all six of us doing our job a bit better, especially me.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A C172 EXPERIENCED NMAC ON SHORT FINAL TO BFI WHEN ACFT BELOW IS ISSUED GAR BY ATC.
Narrative: WE WERE IN THE RWY 13L PATTERN FOR TOUCH AND GOS WHEN WE HAD A NEAR MIDAIR ON VERY SHORT FINAL. TWR ASKED ME IF I HAD MY TFC IN SIGHT AND I REPLIED, 'NO, I AM ON SHORT FINAL.' HE THEN TOLD THE OTHER AIRPLANE TO GO AROUND AT WHICH TIME THEY CAME UP FROM UNDER US AND THE NEAR MISS HAPPENED. WE MISSED BY ABOUT 10 FT. WE ROLLED INTO A STEEP RIGHT TURN AT ABOUT 150-200 FT AGL TO AVOID THEM. I DO NOT EXACTLY REMEMBER WHAT WAS TOLD TO US ON DOWNWIND, BUT I CAN GUARANTEE WE WERE NOT TOLD THAT WE WERE #3 ON APCH. AFTER WE LANDED, I TALKED TO THE OTHER PLT AND HE INFORMED ME THAT HE WAS TOLD TO EXTEND HIS DOWNWIND FOR ANOTHER AIRPLANE ON A LONG STRAIGHT IN. THIS HAPPENED WHILE I WAS ON THE UPWIND. I BELIEVE I WAS CLRED #2. OUR TWR HAS ALSO BEEN CONDUCTING TRAINING AND THAT WAS THE CASE TONIGHT. THERE WERE THREE OR FOUR INSTANCES WHERE THE SUPERVISOR WOULD GET ON THE RADIO AND CORRECT THE TRAINEE. THIS HAPPENED IN THE MOMENTS BEFORE THE NEAR MIDAIR. I FEEL THAT THERE WERE A QUITE FEW PEOPLE TO BLAME. ME AND MY STUDENT DID NOT SEE AND AVOID. THE TWR CTLR DID NOT TELL US ABOUT THE TFC, AND TO A LESSER DEGREE, THE OTHER PLANE DID NOT SEE AND AVOID. THERE WERE TWO PLTS IN THAT PLANE. ANY ONE OF THE SIX OF US (INCLUDING THE TWR SUPERVISOR) COULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS. THE FACT THAT IT HAPPENED AT NIGHT, IN LIGHT HAZE, AND WITH A TRAINING CTLR DOESN'T HELP THE SIT. NOT SURE WHAT TO SUGGEST OTHER THAN ALL SIX OF US DOING OUR JOB A BIT BETTER, ESPECIALLY ME.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.