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Attributes | |
ACN | 636682 |
Time | |
Date | 200411 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : lga.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1600 msl bound upper : 2000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Weather Elements | Turbulence |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : lga.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | Regional Jet 200 ER&LR |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 230 flight time total : 20300 flight time type : 8000 |
ASRS Report | 636682 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 225 flight time total : 3200 flight time type : 1700 |
ASRS Report | 636681 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment other aircraft equipment : eicas flap fail message other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Aircraft |
Narrative:
Several seconds after selecting flaps 20 degrees, while on visual approach, right base runway 31 at lga, the flaps failed at 20 degrees. We ran the normal and abnormal QRH procedure twice and landed. Since we had the landing distance performance, I felt it was satisfactory to continue the approach. I did not want to be circling new york without a lot of fuel nor did I want to divert to jfk where the winds and runway alignments are similar to lga's. The first officer, who was flying, twice indicated her discomfort, and that alone should have convinced me to declare a missed approach. Although jfk has similar runway alignments, the runways are much longer and would have been a better choice. Furthermore, we could have circled and discussed the techniques unique to a partial flap landing, gotten maintenance/dispatch on the radio for their input, and been in a better frame of mind to execute the approach. I think that 'get there itis' on my part caused me to lose sight of our primary goal which is to conduct operations safely.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: CRJ200 CREW HAD THE TRAILING EDGE FLAPS FAIL AT FLAPS 20 DEGS.
Narrative: SEVERAL SECONDS AFTER SELECTING FLAPS 20 DEGS, WHILE ON VISUAL APCH, R BASE RWY 31 AT LGA, THE FLAPS FAILED AT 20 DEGS. WE RAN THE NORMAL AND ABNORMAL QRH PROC TWICE AND LANDED. SINCE WE HAD THE LNDG DISTANCE PERFORMANCE, I FELT IT WAS SATISFACTORY TO CONTINUE THE APCH. I DID NOT WANT TO BE CIRCLING NEW YORK WITHOUT A LOT OF FUEL NOR DID I WANT TO DIVERT TO JFK WHERE THE WINDS AND RWY ALIGNMENTS ARE SIMILAR TO LGA'S. THE FO, WHO WAS FLYING, TWICE INDICATED HER DISCOMFORT, AND THAT ALONE SHOULD HAVE CONVINCED ME TO DECLARE A MISSED APCH. ALTHOUGH JFK HAS SIMILAR RWY ALIGNMENTS, THE RWYS ARE MUCH LONGER AND WOULD HAVE BEEN A BETTER CHOICE. FURTHERMORE, WE COULD HAVE CIRCLED AND DISCUSSED THE TECHNIQUES UNIQUE TO A PARTIAL FLAP LNDG, GOTTEN MAINT/DISPATCH ON THE RADIO FOR THEIR INPUT, AND BEEN IN A BETTER FRAME OF MIND TO EXECUTE THE APCH. I THINK THAT 'GET THERE ITIS' ON MY PART CAUSED ME TO LOSE SIGHT OF OUR PRIMARY GOAL WHICH IS TO CONDUCT OPS SAFELY.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.