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Attributes | |
ACN | 636916 |
Time | |
Date | 200411 |
Day | Mon |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : tpa.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | agl single value : 6 msl bound lower : 4000 msl bound upper : 4500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : tpa.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Duchess 76 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : tpa.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A320 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | approach : traffic pattern |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
ASRS Report | 636916 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : clearance non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment : conflict alert aircraft equipment : tcas other controllera other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert controller : issued new clearance flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 600 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
We picked up our IFR clearance at tpa. The clearance read: 'cleared to fpr as filed. Turn heading 060 degrees on departure and climb, maintain 1600 ft, expect 5000 ft in 10 mins.' the WX at tpa was VFR with good visibility, and a few scattered clouds around 3000-4000 ft. We took off runway 36R and turned 060 degrees and were handed off to 119.9, and passing 1400 ft we were assigned 4000 ft, which I read back. When on this heading and altitude, the controller called traffic (an A320) north of us 5000 ft. I replied to the call with, 'climb, maintain 5000 ft' and I got no reply. A couple of seconds after, I called the traffic in sight, having just left 4000 ft. At this time, the traffic did not look conflicting, so we continued the climb. At 4500 ft, I could see that the traffic would conflict, and I leveled off to confirm with ATC. Just before I got the call in, the controller called us and asked what altitude we were at. I replied '4500 ft, climbing 5000 ft as assigned.' the controller replied that 5000 ft was not our assigned altitude. At this stage, our aircraft was already in a descent down to 4000 ft. It was obviously the communication that failed in this incident. I think what made my reply 'climb, maintain 5000 ft' was because I expected it as a result of the IFR clearance. I'm sure that if the traffic had been called as 'traffic 11 O'clock position 1000 ft above' I would not have mistaken the call. I should definitely have queried the climb before leaving 4000 ft. The controller's failure to query my readback made me continue with the climb. By me doing the radios for my student (being under the hood), I should also make sure my student copies and understands the radio calls being made and received. Supplemental information from acn 637136: BE76 departed tpa and was idented and climbed to 4000 ft. He busted his altitude and conflicted with an A320, descending to 5000 ft.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: BE76 INSTRUCTOR PLT DEP FROM TPA RESPONDS TO TFC INFO AND CLBS TO ALT OF CONFLICTING ACR ACFT.
Narrative: WE PICKED UP OUR IFR CLRNC AT TPA. THE CLRNC READ: 'CLRED TO FPR AS FILED. TURN HDG 060 DEGS ON DEP AND CLB, MAINTAIN 1600 FT, EXPECT 5000 FT IN 10 MINS.' THE WX AT TPA WAS VFR WITH GOOD VISIBILITY, AND A FEW SCATTERED CLOUDS AROUND 3000-4000 FT. WE TOOK OFF RWY 36R AND TURNED 060 DEGS AND WERE HANDED OFF TO 119.9, AND PASSING 1400 FT WE WERE ASSIGNED 4000 FT, WHICH I READ BACK. WHEN ON THIS HDG AND ALT, THE CTLR CALLED TFC (AN A320) N OF US 5000 FT. I REPLIED TO THE CALL WITH, 'CLB, MAINTAIN 5000 FT' AND I GOT NO REPLY. A COUPLE OF SECONDS AFTER, I CALLED THE TFC IN SIGHT, HAVING JUST LEFT 4000 FT. AT THIS TIME, THE TFC DID NOT LOOK CONFLICTING, SO WE CONTINUED THE CLB. AT 4500 FT, I COULD SEE THAT THE TFC WOULD CONFLICT, AND I LEVELED OFF TO CONFIRM WITH ATC. JUST BEFORE I GOT THE CALL IN, THE CTLR CALLED US AND ASKED WHAT ALT WE WERE AT. I REPLIED '4500 FT, CLBING 5000 FT AS ASSIGNED.' THE CTLR REPLIED THAT 5000 FT WAS NOT OUR ASSIGNED ALT. AT THIS STAGE, OUR ACFT WAS ALREADY IN A DSCNT DOWN TO 4000 FT. IT WAS OBVIOUSLY THE COM THAT FAILED IN THIS INCIDENT. I THINK WHAT MADE MY REPLY 'CLB, MAINTAIN 5000 FT' WAS BECAUSE I EXPECTED IT AS A RESULT OF THE IFR CLRNC. I'M SURE THAT IF THE TFC HAD BEEN CALLED AS 'TFC 11 O'CLOCK POS 1000 FT ABOVE' I WOULD NOT HAVE MISTAKEN THE CALL. I SHOULD DEFINITELY HAVE QUERIED THE CLB BEFORE LEAVING 4000 FT. THE CTLR'S FAILURE TO QUERY MY READBACK MADE ME CONTINUE WITH THE CLB. BY ME DOING THE RADIOS FOR MY STUDENT (BEING UNDER THE HOOD), I SHOULD ALSO MAKE SURE MY STUDENT COPIES AND UNDERSTANDS THE RADIO CALLS BEING MADE AND RECEIVED. SUPPLEMENTAL INFO FROM ACN 637136: BE76 DEPARTED TPA AND WAS IDENTED AND CLBED TO 4000 FT. HE BUSTED HIS ALT AND CONFLICTED WITH AN A320, DSNDING TO 5000 FT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.