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Attributes | |
ACN | 637062 |
Time | |
Date | 200411 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mdw.airport |
State Reference | IL |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1300 msl bound upper : 3000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : c90.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Citation II S2/Bravo |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial climbout : takeoff |
Route In Use | departure sid : n/a |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain instruction : instructor oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp pilot : cfi pilot : multi engine pilot : commercial pilot : flight engineer pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 5100 flight time type : 1000 |
ASRS Report | 637062 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : corporate |
Function | flight crew : captain instruction : trainee |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued advisory none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Departing mdw, I was performing my first trip as a standards captain performing IOE on a new captain. Departure was briefed to include the restrs of no turns below 1300 ft AGL and turns must be completed within 4 NM of mdw using the ILS DME. New captain was PF. Normal departure off runway 31C with instructions to turn right to heading 110 degrees. At 1300 ft AGL, other pilot began the turn and above 1500 ft AGL engaged the autoplt. Distance on DME was approximately 1.8 mi. I moved my focus to outside the airplane to clear for traffic. When I next looked back inside the cockpit, I realized that the other pilot had accelerated to 250 KTS and thus produced an excessive turn radius for the departure. We still had 30 degrees of turn to make and DME distance was now 3.8. The autoplt was still engaged with 30 degrees of bank. I verbalized that the other pilot needed to decrease speed in order to maintain within the departure restrs. We rolled out on the assigned heading indicating 4.2 DME. Departure control reprimanded us for exceeding the limits of the departure. I believe contributing factors were my lack of experience flying in the right seat as a standards captain. The other pilot was also acting in a new position. We did brief the departure restrs, but did not expect a 160 degree turn from the tower. We expected a much smaller turn and did not expect the restr to be a problem for our type aircraft. I should have caught the excessive airspeed earlier in the turn, or briefed the importance of maintaining a slower airspeed during the turn.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SPD AND POS DEV BY A DEP C550 FLT CREW WHEN ATTEMPTING TO REMAIN WITHIN THE 4 NM BOUNDARY OF MDW.
Narrative: DEPARTING MDW, I WAS PERFORMING MY FIRST TRIP AS A STANDARDS CAPT PERFORMING IOE ON A NEW CAPT. DEP WAS BRIEFED TO INCLUDE THE RESTRS OF NO TURNS BELOW 1300 FT AGL AND TURNS MUST BE COMPLETED WITHIN 4 NM OF MDW USING THE ILS DME. NEW CAPT WAS PF. NORMAL DEP OFF RWY 31C WITH INSTRUCTIONS TO TURN R TO HDG 110 DEGS. AT 1300 FT AGL, OTHER PLT BEGAN THE TURN AND ABOVE 1500 FT AGL ENGAGED THE AUTOPLT. DISTANCE ON DME WAS APPROX 1.8 MI. I MOVED MY FOCUS TO OUTSIDE THE AIRPLANE TO CLR FOR TFC. WHEN I NEXT LOOKED BACK INSIDE THE COCKPIT, I REALIZED THAT THE OTHER PLT HAD ACCELERATED TO 250 KTS AND THUS PRODUCED AN EXCESSIVE TURN RADIUS FOR THE DEP. WE STILL HAD 30 DEGS OF TURN TO MAKE AND DME DISTANCE WAS NOW 3.8. THE AUTOPLT WAS STILL ENGAGED WITH 30 DEGS OF BANK. I VERBALIZED THAT THE OTHER PLT NEEDED TO DECREASE SPD IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN WITHIN THE DEP RESTRS. WE ROLLED OUT ON THE ASSIGNED HDG INDICATING 4.2 DME. DEP CTL REPRIMANDED US FOR EXCEEDING THE LIMITS OF THE DEP. I BELIEVE CONTRIBUTING FACTORS WERE MY LACK OF EXPERIENCE FLYING IN THE R SEAT AS A STANDARDS CAPT. THE OTHER PLT WAS ALSO ACTING IN A NEW POS. WE DID BRIEF THE DEP RESTRS, BUT DID NOT EXPECT A 160 DEG TURN FROM THE TWR. WE EXPECTED A MUCH SMALLER TURN AND DID NOT EXPECT THE RESTR TO BE A PROB FOR OUR TYPE ACFT. I SHOULD HAVE CAUGHT THE EXCESSIVE AIRSPD EARLIER IN THE TURN, OR BRIEFED THE IMPORTANCE OF MAINTAINING A SLOWER AIRSPD DURING THE TURN.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.