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Attributes | |
ACN | 638303 |
Time | |
Date | 200412 |
Day | Wed |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : sct.tracon |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | msl single value : 5500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure sid : loop4 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : sct.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : corporate |
Make Model Name | Cessna Citation Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Navigation In Use | Other |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Route In Use | departure other |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : departure |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller radar : 20 |
ASRS Report | 638303 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : departure |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | flight time total : 400 |
ASRS Report | 638303 |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe non adherence : required legal separation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment : conflict alert other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 300 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Operational Error Intra Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
Departed lax runway 24L on a loop 4 SID, climbed heading 250 degrees to 5000 ft by tower. I, working the DR1 position, climbed the aircraft to 15000 ft on initial contact. At approximately the same time, a cpr-type jet, call sign aircraft Y, departed smo runway 3 with a right turn heading 250 degrees and was worked initially by the DR2 controller. I accepted the handoff on aircraft Y in the vicinity of smo. Aircraft Y, a citation jet, was cleared via sli VOR. The loop 4 SID is a radar vector departure procedure that requires the DR1 controller to turn the aircraft left to the lax VOR. I turned air carrier X about 7 mi west of lax climbing out of 4500 ft. The SOP specifies that the DR2 controller is to vector the aircraft Y aircraft toward merma intersection climbing to 6000 ft. Just as I turned air carrier X to his left, I observed aircraft Y at his 2 O'clock position in a left turn approaching 6000 ft. The DR2 controller asked if I wanted him (aircraft Y) turned 'toward the dots' (heading about 150 degrees from here) and I replied that 'air carrier X is looping now' or words to that effect. DR2 then turned aircraft Y back toward the west. I issued traffic to air carrier X at 2 O'clock position, 1 mi wbound at 6000 ft. He said that he had him on TCASII. I believe that if radar separation was lost, it was lost as air carrier X left 5000 ft. However, I conferred with the DR2 controller and he assured me the aircraft were on diverging courses. It should be noted that I signed onto the DR1 position on the hour and had asked for a handoff person immediately prior to that. I was anticipating a very busy session. It was. This incident occurred about 12 mins past the hour and before I had a handoff.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: SCT CTLR EXPERIENCED CONFLICT WITH DEP(S) FROM LAX AND SMO BECAUSE OF SOP AND COM FAILURE(S) BTWN SCT DEP CTLRS.
Narrative: DEPARTED LAX RWY 24L ON A LOOP 4 SID, CLBED HDG 250 DEGS TO 5000 FT BY TWR. I, WORKING THE DR1 POS, CLBED THE ACFT TO 15000 FT ON INITIAL CONTACT. AT APPROX THE SAME TIME, A CPR-TYPE JET, CALL SIGN ACFT Y, DEPARTED SMO RWY 3 WITH A R TURN HDG 250 DEGS AND WAS WORKED INITIALLY BY THE DR2 CTLR. I ACCEPTED THE HDOF ON ACFT Y IN THE VICINITY OF SMO. ACFT Y, A CITATION JET, WAS CLRED VIA SLI VOR. THE LOOP 4 SID IS A RADAR VECTOR DEP PROC THAT REQUIRES THE DR1 CTLR TO TURN THE ACFT L TO THE LAX VOR. I TURNED ACR X ABOUT 7 MI W OF LAX CLBING OUT OF 4500 FT. THE SOP SPECIFIES THAT THE DR2 CTLR IS TO VECTOR THE ACFT Y ACFT TOWARD MERMA INTXN CLBING TO 6000 FT. JUST AS I TURNED ACR X TO HIS L, I OBSERVED ACFT Y AT HIS 2 O'CLOCK POS IN A L TURN APCHING 6000 FT. THE DR2 CTLR ASKED IF I WANTED HIM (ACFT Y) TURNED 'TOWARD THE DOTS' (HDG ABOUT 150 DEGS FROM HERE) AND I REPLIED THAT 'ACR X IS LOOPING NOW' OR WORDS TO THAT EFFECT. DR2 THEN TURNED ACFT Y BACK TOWARD THE W. I ISSUED TFC TO ACR X AT 2 O'CLOCK POS, 1 MI WBOUND AT 6000 FT. HE SAID THAT HE HAD HIM ON TCASII. I BELIEVE THAT IF RADAR SEPARATION WAS LOST, IT WAS LOST AS ACR X LEFT 5000 FT. HOWEVER, I CONFERRED WITH THE DR2 CTLR AND HE ASSURED ME THE ACFT WERE ON DIVERGING COURSES. IT SHOULD BE NOTED THAT I SIGNED ONTO THE DR1 POS ON THE HR AND HAD ASKED FOR A HDOF PERSON IMMEDIATELY PRIOR TO THAT. I WAS ANTICIPATING A VERY BUSY SESSION. IT WAS. THIS INCIDENT OCCURRED ABOUT 12 MINS PAST THE HR AND BEFORE I HAD A HDOF.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.