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Attributes | |
ACN | 638601 |
Time | |
Date | 200411 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : msp.airport |
State Reference | MN |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B727-200 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : second officer |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : flight engineer pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : multi engine |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 150 flight time total : 7000 flight time type : 2500 |
ASRS Report | 638601 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : far non adherence : company policies |
Independent Detector | other other : 5 |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Company Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
When I reported for duty, I was informed by a check airman that the captain would be receiving a line check. There was significant discussion whether the captain needed IOE or just a line check. The check airmen informed us that the chief pilot had made a decision that the captain did not require IOE, but did require a line check. We conducted the flight as ordered by the chief pilot. When we arrived at our destination, the check airmen informed us that the chief pilot had changed his mind and informed the check airmen that the captain did require IOE and that he should start the IOE on the second leg of the trip.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN ACR ALLOWED A CAPT REQUIRING IOE UNDER SUPERVISION TO FLY AS PIC UNDER OBSERVATION.
Narrative: WHEN I RPTED FOR DUTY, I WAS INFORMED BY A CHK AIRMAN THAT THE CAPT WOULD BE RECEIVING A LINE CHK. THERE WAS SIGNIFICANT DISCUSSION WHETHER THE CAPT NEEDED IOE OR JUST A LINE CHK. THE CHK AIRMEN INFORMED US THAT THE CHIEF PLT HAD MADE A DECISION THAT THE CAPT DID NOT REQUIRE IOE, BUT DID REQUIRE A LINE CHK. WE CONDUCTED THE FLT AS ORDERED BY THE CHIEF PLT. WHEN WE ARRIVED AT OUR DEST, THE CHK AIRMEN INFORMED US THAT THE CHIEF PLT HAD CHANGED HIS MIND AND INFORMED THE CHK AIRMEN THAT THE CAPT DID REQUIRE IOE AND THAT HE SHOULD START THE IOE ON THE SECOND LEG OF THE TRIP.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.