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Attributes | |
ACN | 639053 |
Time | |
Date | 200411 |
Day | Tue |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : stl.airport |
State Reference | MD |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | MD-80 Series (DC-9-80) Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : takeoff roll |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
ASRS Report | 639053 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe non adherence : company policies |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Aircraft Company |
Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
I was to fly 4 legs, 2 round trips to ord and back to stl starting in mid afternoon, and we were assigned an aircraft with both autoplts inoperative. We flew to ord and back to stl with both legs in WX and shot 2 instrument approachs. During the flight back to stl, I felt that we were getting somewhat behind the power curve, missing ATC calls almost busting an altitude and overall not quite right. Upon landing at stl, I called company planning and called off fatigued. The planner told me that I needed to talk to the chief pilot on call. The chief pilot on call asked if I would continue on to ord and back to stl if he gave me an aircraft with an autoplt? He was already aware that I had called off fatigued, and knowing that, I was appalled and felt that this was intimidation on his part. I asked him, 'how can I call back de-fatigued when I just called off fatigued?' not that I was about to do so. I felt then and still do, that the captain was trying to intimidate me into continuing with my flight even though I had already called off fatigued. Had I continued on and an accident were to happen, what would happen to the company, me and captain as far as liabilities are concerned? I would like to know company's policy on fatigue.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AFTER FLYING 2 LEGS WITHOUT AUTOPLT IN IMC, INCLUDING INST APCHS, AN ACR PLT CALLS IN FATIGUED. MGMNT REQUESTS HE CONTINUE WITH AN ACFT CHANGE.
Narrative: I WAS TO FLY 4 LEGS, 2 ROUND TRIPS TO ORD AND BACK TO STL STARTING IN MID AFTERNOON, AND WE WERE ASSIGNED AN ACFT WITH BOTH AUTOPLTS INOP. WE FLEW TO ORD AND BACK TO STL WITH BOTH LEGS IN WX AND SHOT 2 INST APCHS. DURING THE FLT BACK TO STL, I FELT THAT WE WERE GETTING SOMEWHAT BEHIND THE PWR CURVE, MISSING ATC CALLS ALMOST BUSTING AN ALT AND OVERALL NOT QUITE RIGHT. UPON LNDG AT STL, I CALLED COMPANY PLANNING AND CALLED OFF FATIGUED. THE PLANNER TOLD ME THAT I NEEDED TO TALK TO THE CHIEF PLT ON CALL. THE CHIEF PLT ON CALL ASKED IF I WOULD CONTINUE ON TO ORD AND BACK TO STL IF HE GAVE ME AN ACFT WITH AN AUTOPLT? HE WAS ALREADY AWARE THAT I HAD CALLED OFF FATIGUED, AND KNOWING THAT, I WAS APPALLED AND FELT THAT THIS WAS INTIMIDATION ON HIS PART. I ASKED HIM, 'HOW CAN I CALL BACK DE-FATIGUED WHEN I JUST CALLED OFF FATIGUED?' NOT THAT I WAS ABOUT TO DO SO. I FELT THEN AND STILL DO, THAT THE CAPT WAS TRYING TO INTIMIDATE ME INTO CONTINUING WITH MY FLT EVEN THOUGH I HAD ALREADY CALLED OFF FATIGUED. HAD I CONTINUED ON AND AN ACCIDENT WERE TO HAPPEN, WHAT WOULD HAPPEN TO THE COMPANY, ME AND CAPT AS FAR AS LIABILITIES ARE CONCERNED? I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW COMPANY'S POLICY ON FATIGUE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.