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Attributes | |
ACN | 639936 |
Time | |
Date | 200412 |
Day | Sun |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | Marginal |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A320 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : pushback |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 22000 flight time type : 3500 |
ASRS Report | 639936 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure non adherence : company policies |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Company Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
The push was normal as well as the disconnect headset call. The push crew did not position themselves so that either the first officer or myself could see the tractor or signal man. I kept looking and we both leaned up over the glare shield and located the push crew under the nose of the aircraft. The signal man was waving the wands over his head when we finally made eye contact. I did not receive a salute nor acknowledge one. The push crew then drove off. I called operations requesting a salute to verify that the aircraft was clear. After a few mins delay, I again requested a proper release. Operations replied 'you are clear.' another crew member was in operations and heard my request. He spoke briefly to the guideman and his response was that he gave a salute and 'I did not see it, it was my problem not his.' rather than delay the flight further we cleared ourselves and left. Either we work together for safety or someone will get hurt.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: AN A320 CREW DOES NOT RECEIVE PROPER WAVE-OFF FROM THE GND CREW.
Narrative: THE PUSH WAS NORMAL AS WELL AS THE DISCONNECT HEADSET CALL. THE PUSH CREW DID NOT POS THEMSELVES SO THAT EITHER THE FO OR MYSELF COULD SEE THE TRACTOR OR SIGNAL MAN. I KEPT LOOKING AND WE BOTH LEANED UP OVER THE GLARE SHIELD AND LOCATED THE PUSH CREW UNDER THE NOSE OF THE ACFT. THE SIGNAL MAN WAS WAVING THE WANDS OVER HIS HEAD WHEN WE FINALLY MADE EYE CONTACT. I DID NOT RECEIVE A SALUTE NOR ACKNOWLEDGE ONE. THE PUSH CREW THEN DROVE OFF. I CALLED OPS REQUESTING A SALUTE TO VERIFY THAT THE ACFT WAS CLR. AFTER A FEW MINS DELAY, I AGAIN REQUESTED A PROPER RELEASE. OPS REPLIED 'YOU ARE CLR.' ANOTHER CREW MEMBER WAS IN OPS AND HEARD MY REQUEST. HE SPOKE BRIEFLY TO THE GUIDEMAN AND HIS RESPONSE WAS THAT HE GAVE A SALUTE AND 'I DID NOT SEE IT, IT WAS MY PROB NOT HIS.' RATHER THAN DELAY THE FLT FURTHER WE CLRED OURSELVES AND LEFT. EITHER WE WORK TOGETHER FOR SAFETY OR SOMEONE WILL GET HURT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.