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Attributes | |
ACN | 640610 |
Time | |
Date | 200412 |
Day | Sat |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | atc facility : zdc.artcc |
State Reference | VA |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 26700 msl bound upper : 27000 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc.artcc |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | climbout : intermediate altitude |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | artcc : zdc.artcc |
Make Model Name | Any Unknown or Unlisted Aircraft Manufacturer |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 220 flight time total : 20150 flight time type : 10500 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical aircraft equipment problem : critical |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Consequence | faa : reviewed incident with flight crew faa : investigated |
Miss Distance | vertical : 700 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Intra Facility Coordination Failure |
Narrative:
We were level at FL270, an intermediate leveloff altitude, awaiting clearance from ZDC to our filed altitude of FL310. When advised that FL310 was bumpy, we were told to chose between FL260 and FL280. FL260 was smooth and the controller cleared us to descend to FL260. Passing FL267, the TCASII alert of 'traffic, traffic' sounded. I adjusted my range scale to 10 NM and saw a target in yellow 1500 ft directly below me and climbing. By the time we had determined the aircraft below us was indeed climbing and in conflict, the TCASII sounded the 'climb, climb' RA and we responded accordingly and with great difficulty, due to so much radio traffic, announced our response to an RA to the ZDC controller. The closest I saw on the TCASII display was a vertical separation of approximately 700 ft. The controller then told us to maintain FL270 once the conflict was no longer present and told us that the airspace below FL270 was owned by another controller who told the controller to use it if the controller needed to and that is why the controller cleared us to FL260. Upon changing frequencys. The controller apologized for the confusion. When TCASII barely prevents a loss of separation, is a full controller investigation initiated as if a loss of separation actually happened?
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 WITH ZDC DSNDING FROM FL270 TO FL260 SEEKING A SMOOTHER RIDE EXPERIENCED TCASII RA.
Narrative: WE WERE LEVEL AT FL270, AN INTERMEDIATE LEVELOFF ALT, AWAITING CLRNC FROM ZDC TO OUR FILED ALT OF FL310. WHEN ADVISED THAT FL310 WAS BUMPY, WE WERE TOLD TO CHOSE BTWN FL260 AND FL280. FL260 WAS SMOOTH AND THE CTLR CLRED US TO DSND TO FL260. PASSING FL267, THE TCASII ALERT OF 'TFC, TFC' SOUNDED. I ADJUSTED MY RANGE SCALE TO 10 NM AND SAW A TARGET IN YELLOW 1500 FT DIRECTLY BELOW ME AND CLBING. BY THE TIME WE HAD DETERMINED THE ACFT BELOW US WAS INDEED CLBING AND IN CONFLICT, THE TCASII SOUNDED THE 'CLB, CLB' RA AND WE RESPONDED ACCORDINGLY AND WITH GREAT DIFFICULTY, DUE TO SO MUCH RADIO TFC, ANNOUNCED OUR RESPONSE TO AN RA TO THE ZDC CTLR. THE CLOSEST I SAW ON THE TCASII DISPLAY WAS A VERT SEPARATION OF APPROX 700 FT. THE CTLR THEN TOLD US TO MAINTAIN FL270 ONCE THE CONFLICT WAS NO LONGER PRESENT AND TOLD US THAT THE AIRSPACE BELOW FL270 WAS OWNED BY ANOTHER CTLR WHO TOLD THE CTLR TO USE IT IF THE CTLR NEEDED TO AND THAT IS WHY THE CTLR CLRED US TO FL260. UPON CHANGING FREQS. THE CTLR APOLOGIZED FOR THE CONFUSION. WHEN TCASII BARELY PREVENTS A LOSS OF SEPARATION, IS A FULL CTLR INVESTIGATION INITIATED AS IF A LOSS OF SEPARATION ACTUALLY HAPPENED?
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.