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Attributes | |
ACN | 641343 |
Time | |
Date | 200412 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : teb.airport |
State Reference | NJ |
Altitude | msl bound lower : 1500 msl bound upper : 1800 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | IMC |
Weather Elements | Turbulence Windshear Thunderstorm Rain Fog |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : n90.tracon |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | King Air C90 E90 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure sid : teb five |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | flight crew : single pilot |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 5000 flight time type : 150 |
ASRS Report | 64134 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : departure |
Events | |
Anomaly | altitude deviation : excursion from assigned altitude inflight encounter : weather non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure other anomaly |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued new clearance controller : issued advisory flight crew : regained aircraft control |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Weather |
Primary Problem | Weather |
Narrative:
I was departing teb runway 24 and given an IFR clearance including the teb 5 departure (radar vector). The departure calls for an initial climb on runway heading to 1500 ft before turning wbound. ATIS at the time was reporting gusty winds from the ssw and LLWS advisories were in effect. Immediately after takeoff my aircraft experienced severe turbulence. While trying to level off at the required 1500 ft MSL, my aircraft hit an area of turbulence and my altitude rose to 1800 ft. The controller said I was not supposed to be at 2000 ft (I supposed the altitude his radar showed) and I said that I understood that and was experiencing severe turbulence and 'doing the best I could' to maintain the required altitude. I did not receive any TCASII alerts or RA's (we have TCASII) and was subsequently cleared to 6000 ft moments later. The controller said I was in a 'dangerous position' being 500 ft above my assigned altitude. I realize the nature of the new york airspace as it is very congested. I also believe another aircraft departing behind me had the exact same problem trying to maintain 1500 ft. I would hope during times of severe WX the departures and arrs off close airports are given a wider margin of separation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: PREMIER 1 PLT ON DEP FROM TEB ENCOUNTERS SEVERE TURB AND CLBS ABOVE ALT RESTR.
Narrative: I WAS DEPARTING TEB RWY 24 AND GIVEN AN IFR CLRNC INCLUDING THE TEB 5 DEP (RADAR VECTOR). THE DEP CALLS FOR AN INITIAL CLB ON RWY HDG TO 1500 FT BEFORE TURNING WBOUND. ATIS AT THE TIME WAS RPTING GUSTY WINDS FROM THE SSW AND LLWS ADVISORIES WERE IN EFFECT. IMMEDIATELY AFTER TKOF MY ACFT EXPERIENCED SEVERE TURB. WHILE TRYING TO LEVEL OFF AT THE REQUIRED 1500 FT MSL, MY ACFT HIT AN AREA OF TURB AND MY ALT ROSE TO 1800 FT. THE CTLR SAID I WAS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE AT 2000 FT (I SUPPOSED THE ALT HIS RADAR SHOWED) AND I SAID THAT I UNDERSTOOD THAT AND WAS EXPERIENCING SEVERE TURB AND 'DOING THE BEST I COULD' TO MAINTAIN THE REQUIRED ALT. I DID NOT RECEIVE ANY TCASII ALERTS OR RA'S (WE HAVE TCASII) AND WAS SUBSEQUENTLY CLRED TO 6000 FT MOMENTS LATER. THE CTLR SAID I WAS IN A 'DANGEROUS POS' BEING 500 FT ABOVE MY ASSIGNED ALT. I REALIZE THE NATURE OF THE NEW YORK AIRSPACE AS IT IS VERY CONGESTED. I ALSO BELIEVE ANOTHER ACFT DEPARTING BEHIND ME HAD THE EXACT SAME PROB TRYING TO MAINTAIN 1500 FT. I WOULD HOPE DURING TIMES OF SEVERE WX THE DEPS AND ARRS OFF CLOSE ARPTS ARE GIVEN A WIDER MARGIN OF SEPARATION.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.