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Attributes | |
ACN | 642156 |
Time | |
Date | 200412 |
Day | Thu |
Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : elm.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | msl single value : 2600 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : elm.tracon tower : elm.tower |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Cessna 210 Centurion / Turbo Centurion 210C, 210D |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial ground : maintenance |
Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : elm.tracon tower : elm.tower |
Operator | general aviation : personal |
Make Model Name | Skylane 182/RG Turbo Skylane/RG |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | climbout : initial |
Route In Use | departure : on vectors |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : local |
Qualification | controller : radar |
Experience | controller military : 5 controller radar : 1.5 controller supervisory : 1 |
ASRS Report | 642156 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | government : faa |
Function | controller : departure |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne less severe |
Independent Detector | atc equipment : conflict alert other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 6000 vertical : 500 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | ATC Human Performance |
Primary Problem | ATC Human Performance |
Narrative:
A C182 was first for departure, C210 was second. The aircraft were treated as the same type. The C182 was slower than anticipated on departure, and the C210 was much faster. While visual separation was used by the local controller and then diverging courses and no separation loss occurred, this situation was potentially dangerous. Controllers must take the possibility of similar aircraft reacting differently than anticipated because of weight (I believe the C182 was heavy, and the C210 light) and other factors. And giving the C210 a little extra room before clearing that aircraft for departure would have prevented this situation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ELM TWR CTLR EXPRESSED CONCERN REGARDING SUCCESSIVE IFR SPACING UTILIZING VISUAL SEPARATION.
Narrative: A C182 WAS FIRST FOR DEP, C210 WAS SECOND. THE ACFT WERE TREATED AS THE SAME TYPE. THE C182 WAS SLOWER THAN ANTICIPATED ON DEP, AND THE C210 WAS MUCH FASTER. WHILE VISUAL SEPARATION WAS USED BY THE LCL CTLR AND THEN DIVERGING COURSES AND NO SEPARATION LOSS OCCURRED, THIS SIT WAS POTENTIALLY DANGEROUS. CTLRS MUST TAKE THE POSSIBILITY OF SIMILAR ACFT REACTING DIFFERENTLY THAN ANTICIPATED BECAUSE OF WT (I BELIEVE THE C182 WAS HVY, AND THE C210 LIGHT) AND OTHER FACTORS. AND GIVING THE C210 A LITTLE EXTRA ROOM BEFORE CLRING THAT ACFT FOR DEP WOULD HAVE PREVENTED THIS SIT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of July 2007 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.