A B727 captain landed in the runway overrun after descending low on glidepath.

Attributes
ACN	655253
Time
Date	200504
Local Time Of Day	0601 To 1200
Place
Locale Reference	airport : swf.airport
State Reference	NY
Altitude	agl single value : 1000
Environment
Flight Conditions	VMC
Light	Daylight
Aircraft 1
Controlling Facilities	tower : swf.tower
Operator	general aviation : corporate
Make Model Name	B727 Undifferentiated or Other Model
Operating Under FAR Part	Part 91
Navigation In Use	ils localizer & glide slope : unknown
Flight Phase	descent : approach landing : roll
Route In Use	approach : instrument precision
Flight Plan	IFR
Person 1
Affiliation	company : corporate
Function	flight crew : first officer
Qualification	pilot : commercial pilot : cfi pilot : atp pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument
Experience	flight time last 90 days : 44 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 3100
ASRS Report	655253
Person 2
Affiliation	company : corporate
Function	flight crew : captain oversight : pic
Events
Anomaly	excursion : runway non adherence : clearance non adherence : company policies non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other anomaly other
Independent Detector	other flight crewa
Resolutory Action	none taken : anomaly accepted
Supplementary
Problem Areas	Flight Crew Human Performance
Primary Problem	Flight Crew Human Performance
Air Traffic Incident	Pilot Deviation

Narrative:

PF lined up on final 7+ mi out. Was configured for landing 4+ mi out; approach was stabilized by 1000 ft AGL on descent. About 1 1/2 mi from runway; PF began to deviate below ILS GS. I made standard callouts; ie; '1 DOT low;' '2 dots low;' 'full scale low.' after a minimal flare; aircraft touched down approximately 1000 ft short of the displaced threshold for runway 9. Touchdown was firm; but within normal parameters. As PNF; I might have made an attempt to take control of the aircraft when I saw the approach path deviate from normal. Unfortunately; this was 'normal' for this pilot and others in the company; ie; an accepted practice. Deviating below glidepath on short final is believed by some here to shorten the landing distance. I disagree and have for some time lobbied to change the practice; citing far 91.129 as well as other guidance. Postflt; when I asked the PF if he intended to report the event; he denied it had happened. The following day he did admit to landing short and said he intended to report it. As the PF was also designated as PIC for the flight. I wanted to give him the opportunity to come forward and report the event to the airport management before I did.

Original NASA ASRS Text

Title: A B727 CAPT LANDED IN THE RWY OVERRUN AFTER DSNDING LOW ON GLIDEPATH.

Narrative: PF LINED UP ON FINAL 7+ MI OUT. WAS CONFIGURED FOR LNDG 4+ MI OUT; APCH WAS STABILIZED BY 1000 FT AGL ON DSCNT. ABOUT 1 1/2 MI FROM RWY; PF BEGAN TO DEVIATE BELOW ILS GS. I MADE STANDARD CALLOUTS; IE; '1 DOT LOW;' '2 DOTS LOW;' 'FULL SCALE LOW.' AFTER A MINIMAL FLARE; ACFT TOUCHED DOWN APPROX 1000 FT SHORT OF THE DISPLACED THRESHOLD FOR RWY 9. TOUCHDOWN WAS FIRM; BUT WITHIN NORMAL PARAMETERS. AS PNF; I MIGHT HAVE MADE AN ATTEMPT TO TAKE CTL OF THE ACFT WHEN I SAW THE APCH PATH DEVIATE FROM NORMAL. UNFORTUNATELY; THIS WAS 'NORMAL' FOR THIS PLT AND OTHERS IN THE COMPANY; IE; AN ACCEPTED PRACTICE. DEVIATING BELOW GLIDEPATH ON SHORT FINAL IS BELIEVED BY SOME HERE TO SHORTEN THE LNDG DISTANCE. I DISAGREE AND HAVE FOR SOME TIME LOBBIED TO CHANGE THE PRACTICE; CITING FAR 91.129 AS WELL AS OTHER GUIDANCE. POSTFLT; WHEN I ASKED THE PF IF HE INTENDED TO RPT THE EVENT; HE DENIED IT HAD HAPPENED. THE FOLLOWING DAY HE DID ADMIT TO LNDG SHORT AND SAID HE INTENDED TO RPT IT. AS THE PF WAS ALSO DESIGNATED AS PIC FOR THE FLT. I WANTED TO GIVE HIM THE OPPORTUNITY TO COME FORWARD AND RPT THE EVENT TO THE ARPT MGMNT BEFORE I DID.

Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.