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Attributes | |
ACN | 661931 |
Time | |
Date | 200506 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : zzz.airport |
State Reference | US |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | PA-34-200 Seneca I |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | landing : roll |
Flight Plan | VFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : instrument pilot : cfi pilot : commercial pilot : multi engine pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 111 flight time total : 4452 flight time type : 128 |
ASRS Report | 661931 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Qualification | pilot : private pilot : commercial pilot : instrument |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 15 flight time total : 1250 flight time type : 5 |
ASRS Report | 662504 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Consequence | other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Aircraft |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
The VFR instructor controled instrument approach conducted in VMC was concluded 2 mi south of ZZZ runway 2 at 600 ft AGL over the river. CFI did not return to FAF transition checklist and verify that commercial pilot had completed the transition checklist which included putting the gear down. The commercial pilot had not put the gear down. Landing on runway 2 at ZZZ was with a left quartering crosswind with a velocity of 5-10 KTS. At the intended point of landing; a slight drift to the left developed; followed by a touchdown left of centerline. The gear warning horn was not heard prior to touchdown. The aircraft was secured and both pilots departed the aircraft. Appropriate notification of the gear up landing incident was made. During the flight; no maneuvers were completed that would have indicated that the gear warning horn was not activating at the appropriate low power setting. A different instructor pilot who flew a training flight in the aircraft earlier in the day reported to this CFI after the incident that; during the earlier training flight; unless the throttle was at an idle power setting or near idle with the gear handle up; the gear warning horn didn't activate. Regardless; I; as CFI; after making the radio frequency change from approach to ZZZ CTAF and making the appropriate radio calls should have returned to the beginning of the final approach checklist and again covered each step to assure the commercial pilot receiving instruction had complied with my earlier instruction to complete the transition portion of the checklist; which included placing the gear handle down and assuring that the gear was down. This; regardless of the fact that the gear warning horn did not activate at the appropriate low power setting. Never assume that the gear warning horn will activate at the correct low power setting.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A PA34-200 INSTRUCTOR AND STUDENT LANDED WITH THE LNDG GEAR RETRACTED. GEAR UNSAFE WARNING HORN MALFUNCTIONED.
Narrative: THE VFR INSTRUCTOR CTLED INST APCH CONDUCTED IN VMC WAS CONCLUDED 2 MI S OF ZZZ RWY 2 AT 600 FT AGL OVER THE RIVER. CFI DID NOT RETURN TO FAF TRANSITION CHKLIST AND VERIFY THAT COMMERCIAL PLT HAD COMPLETED THE TRANSITION CHKLIST WHICH INCLUDED PUTTING THE GEAR DOWN. THE COMMERCIAL PLT HAD NOT PUT THE GEAR DOWN. LNDG ON RWY 2 AT ZZZ WAS WITH A L QUARTERING XWIND WITH A VELOCITY OF 5-10 KTS. AT THE INTENDED POINT OF LNDG; A SLIGHT DRIFT TO THE L DEVELOPED; FOLLOWED BY A TOUCHDOWN L OF CTRLINE. THE GEAR WARNING HORN WAS NOT HEARD PRIOR TO TOUCHDOWN. THE ACFT WAS SECURED AND BOTH PLTS DEPARTED THE ACFT. APPROPRIATE NOTIFICATION OF THE GEAR UP LNDG INCIDENT WAS MADE. DURING THE FLT; NO MANEUVERS WERE COMPLETED THAT WOULD HAVE INDICATED THAT THE GEAR WARNING HORN WAS NOT ACTIVATING AT THE APPROPRIATE LOW PWR SETTING. A DIFFERENT INSTRUCTOR PLT WHO FLEW A TRAINING FLT IN THE ACFT EARLIER IN THE DAY RPTED TO THIS CFI AFTER THE INCIDENT THAT; DURING THE EARLIER TRAINING FLT; UNLESS THE THROTTLE WAS AT AN IDLE PWR SETTING OR NEAR IDLE WITH THE GEAR HANDLE UP; THE GEAR WARNING HORN DIDN'T ACTIVATE. REGARDLESS; I; AS CFI; AFTER MAKING THE RADIO FREQ CHANGE FROM APCH TO ZZZ CTAF AND MAKING THE APPROPRIATE RADIO CALLS SHOULD HAVE RETURNED TO THE BEGINNING OF THE FINAL APCH CHKLIST AND AGAIN COVERED EACH STEP TO ASSURE THE COMMERCIAL PLT RECEIVING INSTRUCTION HAD COMPLIED WITH MY EARLIER INSTRUCTION TO COMPLETE THE TRANSITION PORTION OF THE CHKLIST; WHICH INCLUDED PLACING THE GEAR HANDLE DOWN AND ASSURING THAT THE GEAR WAS DOWN. THIS; REGARDLESS OF THE FACT THAT THE GEAR WARNING HORN DID NOT ACTIVATE AT THE APPROPRIATE LOW PWR SETTING. NEVER ASSUME THAT THE GEAR WARNING HORN WILL ACTIVATE AT THE CORRECT LOW PWR SETTING.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.