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Attributes | |
ACN | 664067 |
Time | |
Date | 200507 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : oak.airport |
State Reference | CA |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : pushback |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 240 flight time total : 19500 flight time type : 2200 |
ASRS Report | 664067 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | non adherence : clearance non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure other anomaly other |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | none taken : unable |
Consequence | Other |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Company |
Primary Problem | Company |
Narrative:
Released brakes after coordinating with pushback crew. He was apparently listening to ATC because he began to push before the first officer relayed the pushback clearance to me. I asked him if he was listening to ATC and he confirmed this. I told him this was very dangerous and reminded him that his instructions to push must come from the cockpit and not from overhearing the ground controller. As this is a safety issue; we reminded him to file a report. He was unclear what this meant so we told him to ask his supervisor.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A GND PUSH CREW LISTENING TO ATC BEGAN THE B737-300 PUSH UPON ATC CLRNC BUT PRIOR TO THE FLT CREW CLRING THEM TO PUSHBACK.
Narrative: RELEASED BRAKES AFTER COORDINATING WITH PUSHBACK CREW. HE WAS APPARENTLY LISTENING TO ATC BECAUSE HE BEGAN TO PUSH BEFORE THE FO RELAYED THE PUSHBACK CLRNC TO ME. I ASKED HIM IF HE WAS LISTENING TO ATC AND HE CONFIRMED THIS. I TOLD HIM THIS WAS VERY DANGEROUS AND REMINDED HIM THAT HIS INSTRUCTIONS TO PUSH MUST COME FROM THE COCKPIT AND NOT FROM OVERHEARING THE GND CTLR. AS THIS IS A SAFETY ISSUE; WE REMINDED HIM TO FILE A RPT. HE WAS UNCLEAR WHAT THIS MEANT SO WE TOLD HIM TO ASK HIS SUPVR.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.