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Attributes | |
ACN | 668603 |
Time | |
Date | 200508 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : tpa.airport |
State Reference | FL |
Altitude | msl single value : 2720 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : tpa.tracon |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-800 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Aircraft 2 | |
Controlling Facilities | tracon : tpa.tracon |
Make Model Name | Cessna 210 Centurion / Turbo Centurion 210C 210D |
Flight Phase | cruise : enroute altitude change |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 300 flight time total : 12000 flight time type : 7000 |
ASRS Report | 668603 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Events | |
Anomaly | conflict : airborne critical |
Independent Detector | aircraft equipment : tcas other flight crewa |
Resolutory Action | flight crew : took evasive action |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 500 vertical : 275 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance Airspace Structure |
Primary Problem | Ambiguous |
Narrative:
I was the captain on flight. We had an near midair collision with a C210. We were approximately 9 1/2 NM from runway 18L at approximately 2900 ft descending to 2000 ft. Our airspeed was approximately 220 KIAS and we were being radar vectored for an ILS to runway 18L on approximately a 40 degree intercept. ATC reported traffic at 11 O'clock position and 2-3 mi and said that they were not talking to them. We said that we were looking and I told the first officer that I had the aircraft in sight as soon as I spotted it. It appeared to be a C210. It appeared that the C210 was descending and banking (from west to north) into our aircraft; so I disconnected the autoplt; abruptly descended and pulled out the speed brake (which helped descend quicker) to keep from being impacted by the C210. I knew that the pilot of the cessna could not see us because he was in a high wing airplane. The RA alerted us to 'descend; descend' seconds after I took evasive action and we told the ATC controller what we were doing and what had occurred. Our recovery ended at approximately 1800 ft. It would help if these GA aircraft were not able to fly erratically; so close to the airport traffic of a major airport. I had visions of the F16 that recently had a midair and it woke me up and shook me up enough to hope that one day ATC will make GA aircraft maintain radar contact in such close proximity to major airports.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: B737 AT APPROX 2900 FT WITH TPA TRACON EXPERIENCED TCASII RA EVENT WITH ISSUED TFC DURING VECTORS TO RWY 18L.
Narrative: I WAS THE CAPT ON FLT. WE HAD AN NMAC WITH A C210. WE WERE APPROX 9 1/2 NM FROM RWY 18L AT APPROX 2900 FT DSNDING TO 2000 FT. OUR AIRSPD WAS APPROX 220 KIAS AND WE WERE BEING RADAR VECTORED FOR AN ILS TO RWY 18L ON APPROX A 40 DEG INTERCEPT. ATC RPTED TFC AT 11 O'CLOCK POS AND 2-3 MI AND SAID THAT THEY WERE NOT TALKING TO THEM. WE SAID THAT WE WERE LOOKING AND I TOLD THE FO THAT I HAD THE ACFT IN SIGHT AS SOON AS I SPOTTED IT. IT APPEARED TO BE A C210. IT APPEARED THAT THE C210 WAS DSNDING AND BANKING (FROM W TO N) INTO OUR ACFT; SO I DISCONNECTED THE AUTOPLT; ABRUPTLY DSNDED AND PULLED OUT THE SPD BRAKE (WHICH HELPED DSND QUICKER) TO KEEP FROM BEING IMPACTED BY THE C210. I KNEW THAT THE PLT OF THE CESSNA COULD NOT SEE US BECAUSE HE WAS IN A HIGH WING AIRPLANE. THE RA ALERTED US TO 'DSND; DSND' SECONDS AFTER I TOOK EVASIVE ACTION AND WE TOLD THE ATC CTLR WHAT WE WERE DOING AND WHAT HAD OCCURRED. OUR RECOVERY ENDED AT APPROX 1800 FT. IT WOULD HELP IF THESE GA ACFT WERE NOT ABLE TO FLY ERRATICALLY; SO CLOSE TO THE ARPT TFC OF A MAJOR ARPT. I HAD VISIONS OF THE F16 THAT RECENTLY HAD A MIDAIR AND IT WOKE ME UP AND SHOOK ME UP ENOUGH TO HOPE THAT ONE DAY ATC WILL MAKE GA ACFT MAINTAIN RADAR CONTACT IN SUCH CLOSE PROX TO MAJOR ARPTS.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.