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Attributes | |
ACN | 670063 |
Time | |
Date | 200508 |
Local Time Of Day | 0601 To 1200 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : ind.airport |
State Reference | IN |
Altitude | agl single value : 400 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Dawn |
Aircraft 1 | |
Controlling Facilities | tower : ind.tower |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | A310 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Navigation In Use | ils localizer only : 5r |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : instrument non precision |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 35 flight time total : 3000 flight time type : 35 |
ASRS Report | 670063 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Qualification | pilot : atp |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 60 flight time total : 14000 flight time type : 300 |
ASRS Report | 670061 |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : critical altitude deviation : overshoot non adherence : clearance non adherence : published procedure non adherence : far non adherence : company policies other anomaly other spatial deviation |
Independent Detector | atc equipment : msaw other controllera |
Resolutory Action | controller : issued alert flight crew : overcame equipment problem flight crew : regained aircraft control flight crew : returned to assigned airspace flight crew : became reoriented |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Air Traffic Incident | Pilot Deviation |
Narrative:
Last leg of long duty night due to arrival departure delays from mem due to passing of storm. Aircraft was not 'CAT ii' so we briefed a monitored CAT III approach to ind to upgrade CAT status with an autolndg. Captain made the takeoff and flew aircraft until bod into ind. I took the airplane for the descent. Descent and approach checklists were complete; we were on the localizer and cleared for the approach. We were late in noticing the GS was not available and using a 3:1 profile; we knew we were above the GS. I clicked off the autoplt and the captain dialed in vertical speed mode and told me to start down. There was no PAPI or VASI for this runway. Tower cleared us to land and asked 'if we can make it.' the captain said; 'yeah; no problem.' we were fully configured and checklists were completed and the runway was in sight. As we descended through 1200 ft AGL at 4 miles on the profile now; I asked for 700 ft vertical speed for the flight director to keep on the profile. I spent too much time inside and was slow in breaking the rate of descent; and by 2 miles I had gotten low. We were slowing the rate of descent at the time and realized we were below the profile. About two seconds later; tower said we have a low altitude alert. We acknowledged them; got back on profile and landed uneventfully. This was my first trip after IOE. The approach started as a fully coupled CAT III with the captain taking the aircraft and doing the autoland. When it turned into a visual approach with no glidepath information; I was slow to transition to a visual approach. Once the captain dialed in a vertical speed on the fcp; it looked like my flight director was correct and I flew it without coming outside enough to see my progress. There's no excuse for my slow transition to a visual approach; but I think the fatigue played a big factor. Also I expected to do a coupled approach; not a visual with no glidepath; and I expected the captain to do the landing. We discussed all of this afterwards and realized the many errors and better ways of dealing with the situation.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: FLT CREW OF A310 DSNDED WELL BELOW GLIDEPATH WHILE FLYING IAP WITH INOPERATIVE GLIDEPATH INDICATIONS. FATIGUE AND UNEXPECTED NAV INDICATION FAILURES ON PLANNED CAT III APCH IN VISUAL CONDITIONS CONTRIBUTED TO THE ERROR.
Narrative: LAST LEG OF LONG DUTY NIGHT DUE TO ARR DEP DELAYS FROM MEM DUE TO PASSING OF STORM. ACFT WAS NOT 'CAT II' SO WE BRIEFED A MONITORED CAT III APCH TO IND TO UPGRADE CAT STATUS WITH AN AUTOLNDG. CAPT MADE THE TKOF AND FLEW ACFT UNTIL BOD INTO IND. I TOOK THE AIRPLANE FOR THE DSCNT. DSCNT AND APCH CHKLISTS WERE COMPLETE; WE WERE ON THE LOC AND CLRED FOR THE APCH. WE WERE LATE IN NOTICING THE GS WAS NOT AVAILABLE AND USING A 3:1 PROFILE; WE KNEW WE WERE ABOVE THE GS. I CLICKED OFF THE AUTOPLT AND THE CAPT DIALED IN VERT SPD MODE AND TOLD ME TO START DOWN. THERE WAS NO PAPI OR VASI FOR THIS RWY. TWR CLRED US TO LAND AND ASKED 'IF WE CAN MAKE IT.' THE CAPT SAID; 'YEAH; NO PROB.' WE WERE FULLY CONFIGURED AND CHKLISTS WERE COMPLETED AND THE RWY WAS IN SIGHT. AS WE DSNDED THROUGH 1200 FT AGL AT 4 MILES ON THE PROFILE NOW; I ASKED FOR 700 FT VERT SPD FOR THE FLT DIRECTOR TO KEEP ON THE PROFILE. I SPENT TOO MUCH TIME INSIDE AND WAS SLOW IN BREAKING THE RATE OF DSCNT; AND BY 2 MILES I HAD GOTTEN LOW. WE WERE SLOWING THE RATE OF DSCNT AT THE TIME AND REALIZED WE WERE BELOW THE PROFILE. ABOUT TWO SECONDS LATER; TWR SAID WE HAVE A LOW ALT ALERT. WE ACKNOWLEDGED THEM; GOT BACK ON PROFILE AND LANDED UNEVENTFULLY. THIS WAS MY FIRST TRIP AFTER IOE. THE APCH STARTED AS A FULLY COUPLED CAT III WITH THE CAPT TAKING THE ACFT AND DOING THE AUTOLAND. WHEN IT TURNED INTO A VISUAL APCH WITH NO GLIDEPATH INFO; I WAS SLOW TO TRANSITION TO A VISUAL APCH. ONCE THE CAPT DIALED IN A VERT SPD ON THE FCP; IT LOOKED LIKE MY FLT DIRECTOR WAS CORRECT AND I FLEW IT WITHOUT COMING OUTSIDE ENOUGH TO SEE MY PROGRESS. THERE'S NO EXCUSE FOR MY SLOW TRANSITION TO A VISUAL APCH; BUT I THINK THE FATIGUE PLAYED A BIG FACTOR. ALSO I EXPECTED TO DO A COUPLED APCH; NOT A VISUAL WITH NO GLIDEPATH; AND I EXPECTED THE CAPT TO DO THE LNDG. WE DISCUSSED ALL OF THIS AFTERWARDS AND REALIZED THE MANY ERRORS AND BETTER WAYS OF DEALING WITH THE SIT.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.