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Attributes | |
ACN | 671501 |
Time | |
Date | 200509 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : mgj.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl single value : 500 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Daylight |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | general aviation : instructional |
Make Model Name | Skylane 182/RG Turbo Skylane/RG |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 91 |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Route In Use | approach : visual |
Flight Plan | None |
Aircraft 2 | |
Make Model Name | PA-28 Cherokee/Archer II/Dakota/Pillan/Warrior |
Flight Phase | descent : approach |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : instructor |
Qualification | pilot : multi engine pilot : instrument pilot : commercial pilot : cfi |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 80 flight time total : 900 flight time type : 700 |
ASRS Report | 671501 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | other |
Function | instruction : trainee |
Events | |
Anomaly | aircraft equipment problem : less severe conflict : nmac non adherence : published procedure |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Miss Distance | horizontal : 0 vertical : 50 |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Airport Flight Crew Human Performance |
Primary Problem | Flight Crew Human Performance |
Narrative:
Training flight in a C182; practice instrument approach into mgj ILS runway 3; self-announced long final (about 10 mi out and each 3 mi after that; including short final; 1/2 mi). Coming in 3 mi final; all was quiet on the frequency for mgj. Upon reaching short final; I (as the CFI) noticed numerous aircraft on base to final for runway 21! I quickly realized our radio was not receiving after our self-announce to notify opposite landing aircraft. I tapped the radio which jolted a connection inside and all communications were now being received. As I was confused still; I advised the student (a private pilot) to execute a go around. I had communicated with the cherokee on the opposite end landing runway 21; why they had not diverted. I was advised that 'they did not care about our approach and they were landing runway 21 today; not runway 3.' it was obvious from this transmission that the cherokee was announcing their intentions but regardless of our obvious handicap of not receiving (nor responding to my intentions) xmissions; the other pilot was stubborn; reckless and not thinking as to why I was continuing our approach on runway 3. At this point; I did say to the pilot his action was very stupid (verbatim). The cherokee pilot then advised he was an FAA safety counselor! Then he continued to do a touch-and-go while I was in the go around over the runway and came within 50 ft of our C182! I became infuriated; advised the other pilot to read the aim in this situation; and then advised I was departing the area.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: NMAC OCCURS WITH OPPOSITE DIRECTION LNDG TFC AT MGJ WHEN RADIO COM FAILURE GOES UNRECOGNIZED UNTIL LATE IN THE APCH.
Narrative: TRAINING FLT IN A C182; PRACTICE INST APCH INTO MGJ ILS RWY 3; SELF-ANNOUNCED LONG FINAL (ABOUT 10 MI OUT AND EACH 3 MI AFTER THAT; INCLUDING SHORT FINAL; 1/2 MI). COMING IN 3 MI FINAL; ALL WAS QUIET ON THE FREQ FOR MGJ. UPON REACHING SHORT FINAL; I (AS THE CFI) NOTICED NUMEROUS ACFT ON BASE TO FINAL FOR RWY 21! I QUICKLY REALIZED OUR RADIO WAS NOT RECEIVING AFTER OUR SELF-ANNOUNCE TO NOTIFY OPPOSITE LNDG ACFT. I TAPPED THE RADIO WHICH JOLTED A CONNECTION INSIDE AND ALL COMS WERE NOW BEING RECEIVED. AS I WAS CONFUSED STILL; I ADVISED THE STUDENT (A PVT PLT) TO EXECUTE A GAR. I HAD COMMUNICATED WITH THE CHEROKEE ON THE OPPOSITE END LNDG RWY 21; WHY THEY HAD NOT DIVERTED. I WAS ADVISED THAT 'THEY DID NOT CARE ABOUT OUR APCH AND THEY WERE LNDG RWY 21 TODAY; NOT RWY 3.' IT WAS OBVIOUS FROM THIS XMISSION THAT THE CHEROKEE WAS ANNOUNCING THEIR INTENTIONS BUT REGARDLESS OF OUR OBVIOUS HANDICAP OF NOT RECEIVING (NOR RESPONDING TO MY INTENTIONS) XMISSIONS; THE OTHER PLT WAS STUBBORN; RECKLESS AND NOT THINKING AS TO WHY I WAS CONTINUING OUR APCH ON RWY 3. AT THIS POINT; I DID SAY TO THE PLT HIS ACTION WAS VERY STUPID (VERBATIM). THE CHEROKEE PLT THEN ADVISED HE WAS AN FAA SAFETY COUNSELOR! THEN HE CONTINUED TO DO A TOUCH-AND-GO WHILE I WAS IN THE GAR OVER THE RWY AND CAME WITHIN 50 FT OF OUR C182! I BECAME INFURIATED; ADVISED THE OTHER PLT TO READ THE AIM IN THIS SITUATION; AND THEN ADVISED I WAS DEPARTING THE AREA.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.