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Attributes | |
ACN | 676302 |
Time | |
Date | 200510 |
Local Time Of Day | 1801 To 2400 |
Place | |
Locale Reference | airport : buf.airport |
State Reference | NY |
Altitude | agl single value : 0 |
Environment | |
Flight Conditions | VMC |
Light | Night |
Aircraft 1 | |
Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
Make Model Name | B737-300 |
Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
Flight Phase | ground : taxi |
Flight Plan | IFR |
Person 1 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 100 flight time total : 10000 flight time type : 7000 |
ASRS Report | 676302 |
Person 2 | |
Affiliation | company : air carrier |
Function | flight crew : first officer |
Experience | flight time last 90 days : 170 flight time total : 3800 |
ASRS Report | 676303 |
Events | |
Anomaly | incursion : runway non adherence : far non adherence : published procedure non adherence : clearance |
Independent Detector | other flight crewa other flight crewb |
Resolutory Action | none taken : detected after the fact |
Supplementary | |
Problem Areas | Chart Or Publication Flight Crew Human Performance Airport |
Primary Problem | Chart Or Publication |
Narrative:
We were cleared to taxi to the active; runway 32 at buf. While on the parallel taxiway approximately 2000 ft from the departure end; we initiated the before takeoff checklist. After beginning the before takeoff checklist; I noticed what appeared to be an ILS hold short line immediately in front of the aircraft. At about this time tower cleared us for takeoff on runway 32. I am not sure if any of the aircraft may have crossed the hold short line prior to the takeoff clearance being received. As we turned onto the runway we didn't notice crossing any additional hold short lines as would be expected. This led me to believe what we thought had been the ILS hold short line may have been the actual runway 32 hold short line. I had; prior to pushback; reviewed both the 10-7 and 10-9 pages and saw nothing either graphically or verbally displayed which indicated a highly unusually located hold short line for runway 32. Solution: 1) please modify the 10-7 and 10-9 pages for buf to mention and depict this unusually located hold short line. 2) always maintain hyper vigilance at night while taxing due to reduced visibility and often poor lighting. 3) when in doubt stop and confirm that what you think you see is really what you do see.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: A B737-300 CREW RPTED A RWY 32 HOLD SHORT LINE ON TXWY D BTWN TXWY U AND THE RWY THAT WAS NOT DEPICTED ON THE COMMERCIAL OR GOV PUBLISHED ARPT DIAGRAM.
Narrative: WE WERE CLRED TO TAXI TO THE ACTIVE; RWY 32 AT BUF. WHILE ON THE PARALLEL TXWY APPROX 2000 FT FROM THE DEP END; WE INITIATED THE BEFORE TKOF CHKLIST. AFTER BEGINNING THE BEFORE TKOF CHKLIST; I NOTICED WHAT APPEARED TO BE AN ILS HOLD SHORT LINE IMMEDIATELY IN FRONT OF THE ACFT. AT ABOUT THIS TIME TWR CLRED US FOR TKOF ON RWY 32. I AM NOT SURE IF ANY OF THE ACFT MAY HAVE CROSSED THE HOLD SHORT LINE PRIOR TO THE TKOF CLRNC BEING RECEIVED. AS WE TURNED ONTO THE RWY WE DIDN'T NOTICE XING ANY ADDITIONAL HOLD SHORT LINES AS WOULD BE EXPECTED. THIS LED ME TO BELIEVE WHAT WE THOUGHT HAD BEEN THE ILS HOLD SHORT LINE MAY HAVE BEEN THE ACTUAL RWY 32 HOLD SHORT LINE. I HAD; PRIOR TO PUSHBACK; REVIEWED BOTH THE 10-7 AND 10-9 PAGES AND SAW NOTHING EITHER GRAPHICALLY OR VERBALLY DISPLAYED WHICH INDICATED A HIGHLY UNUSUALLY LOCATED HOLD SHORT LINE FOR RWY 32. SOLUTION: 1) PLEASE MODIFY THE 10-7 AND 10-9 PAGES FOR BUF TO MENTION AND DEPICT THIS UNUSUALLY LOCATED HOLD SHORT LINE. 2) ALWAYS MAINTAIN HYPER VIGILANCE AT NIGHT WHILE TAXING DUE TO REDUCED VISIBILITY AND OFTEN POOR LIGHTING. 3) WHEN IN DOUBT STOP AND CONFIRM THAT WHAT YOU THINK YOU SEE IS REALLY WHAT YOU DO SEE.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.