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ZOB controller expressed concern regarding facility's non compliance with LOA regarding approach control airspace during radar outages.
| Attributes | |
| ACN | 676321 |
| Time | |
| Date | 200510 |
| Local Time Of Day | 1201 To 1800 |
| Place | |
| Locale Reference | atc facility : zob.artcc |
| State Reference | OH |
| Environment | |
| Flight Conditions | VMC |
| Light | Night |
| Aircraft 1 | |
| Controlling Facilities | artcc : zob.artcc tracon : zspd.tracon |
| Operator | common carrier : air carrier |
| Make Model Name | Regional Jet CL65 Undifferentiated or Other Model |
| Operating Under FAR Part | Part 121 |
| Flight Phase | descent : approach |
| Route In Use | approach : visual |
| Flight Plan | IFR |
| Person 1 | |
| Affiliation | government : faa |
| Function | controller : radar |
| Experience | controller radar : 20 flight time total : 100 |
| ASRS Report | 676321 |
| Person 2 | |
| Affiliation | company : air carrier |
| Function | flight crew : captain oversight : pic |
| Events | |
| Anomaly | non adherence : published procedure |
| Independent Detector | other controllera |
| Resolutory Action | none taken : anomaly accepted |
| Supplementary | |
| Problem Areas | FAA Airspace Structure ATC Human Performance |
| Primary Problem | FAA |
Narrative:
I relieved controller at lan; fnt; eck; fnt approach; mbs approach. I was told during the briefing that we took lansing approach airspace due to a radar outage. This is contrary to what our LOA states to do during outage. I coordination with the tower controller what approach he wanted the aircraft to do and cleared the aircraft for the visual approach and terminated radar. LOA states lan approach will work this airspace non-radar and aircraft will be cleared to the marker. We don't have radar coverage (frequency coverage) nor are we trained to work this airspace to the ground.
Original NASA ASRS Text
Title: ZOB CTLR EXPRESSED CONCERN REGARDING FACILITY'S NON COMPLIANCE WITH LOA REGARDING APCH CTL AIRSPACE DURING RADAR OUTAGES.
Narrative: I RELIEVED CTLR AT LAN; FNT; ECK; FNT APCH; MBS APCH. I WAS TOLD DURING THE BRIEFING THAT WE TOOK LANSING APCH AIRSPACE DUE TO A RADAR OUTAGE. THIS IS CONTRARY TO WHAT OUR LOA STATES TO DO DURING OUTAGE. I COORD WITH THE TWR CTLR WHAT APCH HE WANTED THE ACFT TO DO AND CLRED THE ACFT FOR THE VISUAL APCH AND TERMINATED RADAR. LOA STATES LAN APCH WILL WORK THIS AIRSPACE NON-RADAR AND ACFT WILL BE CLRED TO THE MARKER. WE DON'T HAVE RADAR COVERAGE (FREQ COVERAGE) NOR ARE WE TRAINED TO WORK THIS AIRSPACE TO THE GND.
Data retrieved from NASA's ASRS site as of January 2009 and automatically converted to unabbreviated mixed upper/lowercase text. This report is for informational purposes with no guarantee of accuracy. See NASA's ASRS site for official report.